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Hello guys and gals,

After reading and searching I came to understand some things. There are two constants in the chip world. One is getting samples and two is you end up buying Paulsons.
Knowing that, I know I am going to end up upgrading some time in the future, however as it stands I am in no way going to splash big money on my first set.
Having already seens ceramics, plastics with metal inserts and some Aria Casino chips, I know I am not getting ceramics and plastic chips. I also started looking around for samples. But, I see new people like me wondering about China Clays. From what I gather they are the closest thing to real casino chips and a decent starting set, but I haven't found a coprehensive "guide" to this chip category, hence this thread CCCC.
All this is under the scope of a new guy, located in Europe, so the prices are really inflated sadly.

In my eyes chips with progressive edge designs look cooler, so that gets me looking at the Pharaoh's, the Dunes and the Bank poker chips.
However I like minimal style inlays, like the Milanos. I also like pastel colours and not bright popping ones. Milanos and Pharaoh's get the nod here.
So all in all my ideal set stylistically (if this is even a word) would be the Pharaoh's with Milano inlays. Or even better a Bellagio/Aria casino love child.
On another note, since we are talking about a small stakes game 0.25/0.25 up to 0.50/1.00 blinds max, and small buy-ins is it worth it to consider sets with 20$ denominations like the Dunes and the Bank instead of the more common 25s?

Being in Europe however makes things weird. If we are talking about new chips a 600pc set price can vary a lot. I am able to find Milano's at around 250€, while everything else goes up to around 390-450€ shipped. That is almost double the price and I am wondering why and if subjectively there is a difference in quality.
I know I am not staying in a China Clay set for life, but I expect it to be liked and used for around a year at least.

So all in all and summing up, I am waiting on samples before pulling the trigger, but would like to hear your opinions on all China Clay sets. Is there a difference in quality among them, or is it just aesthetics that govern the decissions? Do they really smell that bad? Is there a better option budget wise for a starting set?
What would you pick, suggest and how would you really choose among the china clay sets with the price also taking part in the decision?

TLDR; Quality or just aesthetic differences in Pharaoh's, Milano's, Majestic's, Dune's, Bank's and whatever else in china clay. Why are the Milano's so much cheaper?

Sorry for the long text,
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I haven't handled any china clay chips to be honest.
I have played both with plastic chips with metal inserts and ceramic chips at casinos. However none of these, had any resemblance to the Aria chips I hold. I know casinos use whatever chips they want, but my reference point was the Aria chips, which feel kinda softer and harsher than the plastic and ceramic chips I used.
And from what I read almost everywhere, china clays are the best imitation of paulson chips in feel and under 0.50$/chip.
I could be totally wrong, that's why I made the thread to ask.
 

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If I was in your position, I'd also take a good hard look at the 'Cards Mold' ceramics that are being done. Get a sample to see if you like em and then try to get in on a group buy for a design you like.

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/thre...ramics-master-consolidated-info-thread.65544/

But to answer the question in your OP. I've had sets with Milanos and Majestics. For me the quality for them (and the other CC samples I got) was about the same. I liked the brighter colors and the design of the Majestics better but the slightly tackier matt finish on the Milanos better. YMMV so it's good that you're getting samples.

Good luck with your journey! Enjoy the ride!
 
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Definitely do some research and read threads on PCF about these chips.

I'm pretty sure that some people have commented that China clays have issues with long term durability (brittle). I'm pretty sure some colors also have a tendency to fade over time as well. I've never handled or owned any so I can't provide any insight.
 

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Knowing that, I know I am going to end up upgrading some time in the future, however as it stands I am in no way going to splash big money on my first set.

I know I am not staying in a China Clay set for life, but I expect it to be liked and used for around a year at least.
If you see yourself upgrading in a year then I would save that money for better chips. That big money you splash around can be recovered a lot easier with Paulsons than China clays. Even if you were to take a loss on Paulsons, it's still a better investment to make compared to the loss you'll take on China clays and the like.
 

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The thing is I am playing with guys that are content with dice chips and they only play poker for the alcohol and the company. The chips are for me alone, and it 's not in my plans to upgrade to Paulsons. Ideally I 'd find a decent nice set and stay with it, I would maybe look into customs only if the game grows a lot.
However I understand chip sets are a rabbit hole. Once you go in, you never go out. I wouldn't want to keep buying more and more, but from what I gather noone has ever stayed in one set. Maybe dice chips aren't a bad decision money wise after all :D
 

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I am a new member to this forum as well. While I'm by no means an expert and there are many members here with far more knowledge, I have owned and played with Milanos as well as Paulson/BCC/CPC over the years, so will try my best to answer some of your questions:

1/ Differences among China Clays - yes there are, but relatively minor. It is primarily aesthetics. I would say the gap between CCs and plastic dice chips, or CCs to Paulsons is much larger than differences among CCs themselves. If CCs are going to be your one and only set, then you should take the time to understand the differences. But if they are only a temporary stepping stone, I would be driven mainly by price and aesthetics. There are some pretty detailed reviews on youtube - recommended if you haven't already seen.

2/ Smell - yes they do. Not as bad as some members portray, although that may depend on your sensitivity. Getting samples will help you decide.

3/ Better starter option - since you mentioned <$0.50/chip, and ruled out ceramics and plastics, there isn't a whole lot left to choose from. CCs are probably your best bet, especially if you want an off the shelf solution and don't want to spend lots of time and effort piecing together a set over time.

Having said that, if you already have your sights set on Paulsons, expect to be somewhat disappointed by CCs. Yes they are much better than dice or 13.5g metal slugged chips, but they are still noticeably different to proper clays. They still feel a bit plasticky, and the sound, the look - and yes, the smell - well, you get what you pay for.

I don't want to put you off them. As a starter set, they are fine. There is a reason they have been the default starter set for so many. And of course it's relative - if all you have known is dice chips, you are going to be blown away by CCs. If you regularly play with Paulsons, then not so much. But you should know what you are getting into eyes wide open. Again, samples.

4/ Which to pick - since you are approaching CCs as a starter set, and acknowledge that you will (like many others) eventually upgrade to proper compression clays, I wouldn't spend too much time or money at this stage. Just go for the cheapest option.

That seems to be the Milanos for you, with an added bonus that you like the colours and inlays.

But know that you will likely take a loss if you eventually sell and upgrade - another reason to go for the cheapest option now.

As you probably know too well, many US online retailers kill non-US buyers on shipping, so it may be worth checking the Classifieds to see if you can pick up a set of CC for less than a new set. As a new member, you are not allowed to post in Classifieds yet, but you can still PM a member who has posted a set for sale.

At the risk of complicating matters, I'll just add if you are dead set on clay (good choice), there are sometimes deals to be had slightly higher than your price point. For example, the HSI sale by the Chip Room, in the Vendors section of this forum. New Paulsons for $0.60/chip. I think only $1s left now so not a complete solution and you will have to piece together a set over time, but this option does exist if you decide CCs aren't for you. If you look hard enough (and get a bit lucky), you can spend a fair bit less than $2/chip for proper clays.

Of course this is a gateway drug to milling/murdering, relabeling and custom sets, which will completely blow your budget, but I'll let more experienced members take you down that path.

Sorry this reply has gone on for a lot longer than I intended, but your post reminded me of my own journey into higher end poker chips, so I hope at least some of this has been helpful.

Good luck with your search.
 

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I like the brighter colors of the Majestic's. Once I ordered samples of some of the others like Milanos it was a very easy decision to go to Majestic's instead.

I have both a set of Paulsons and a set of Majestic’s. If I’m having a game with people that I know don’t care about the chips and love to throw them into the pot and grind them, I use the Majestic ‘s. In fact I use them more often than my Paulsons. If I know the people that are playing appreciate the better chips I will bring out the Paulsons. I would love to play the Paulsons all the time but they are expensive and they do degrade over time. I honestly would rather use a cheaper chip that I don’t have to babysit all night with people that don’t care about them. So there is a reason to have China clays instead.
 
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There are two constants in the chip world. One is getting samples and two is you end up buying Paulsons.
I am going to end up upgrading some time in the future, however as it stands I am in no way going to splash big money on my first set.

chips with progressive edge designs look cooler
all in all my ideal set stylistically (if this is even a word) would be the Pharaoh's with Milano inlays. Or even better a Bellagio/Aria casino love child.
For your purposes, I'd recommend a custom cards mold set for 30c/chip, which, being custom, you'll likely keep forever. Add a Paulson set later if desired.

Pick up some sample sets from the recent cards mold group buys -- I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. Totally customized to your specs, decent feel and performance, will last a lifetime, and you just can't beat the price for a quality chip. Can't say that about china clays.
 

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The price difference for a 1,000 piece set of Paulsons vs. China clays is significant due to the prices of higher denomination Paulson chips. People like to quote the $1 chip price, but the reality is it costs way more than that. You are going to be in for $1,200 minimum. You add $500 or $1,000 denom chips to the set, well the sky is the limit. So basically triple to quadruple the price of China clays depending on what you get. So, it all depends on your needs and long term plans, and how your budget factors into those plans.

I bought Paulsons because I could afford them. I don’t plan to sell them or view them as an investment. I have just wanted real casino chips for quite a long time. If I didn’t buy those, I would have bought China clays, and they would have suited my needs just fine. I don’t like ceramics, and I don’t care about fancy pictures on my chips. I got lots of samples, and had narrowed it down to Pharaohs or Dunes, leaning towards Dunes. I may still buy some in the future if i ever start playing hold em again. That’s just me and my opinion. You have to go with what you like.
 

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I have 1300 cc dunes cash set and love them. I have 1300 ceramic tournament set and love them both. Nothing compares to Paulsons. The feel the sound the quality etc. I know that and would never compare them to Paulsons. For what I paid for both sets it will bring me more value and entertainment than a smaller set of Paulsons ever could. I also didn’t buy for an investment I bought so I can run a tournament or 2 and have a couple cash games every month. If I had a nice set of Paulsons I wouldn’t want anyone to touch them. It all depends on what you want.
 

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Welcome @Poseidon !

years back when I started I was in the same position. My group was playing with dice chips. The guys were into the fun of getting together and I was the one who wanted to upgrade in chips to make it feel more casino-like.
Since I hosted mostly, I went from:
I never had dice chips,
Started with 39mm prestige 727 plastic chips
To 39mm Casino da Vinci China clay (which blew their minds)
To 39mm majestic (which I relabeled as bellagio)
To 43mm ceramic (Aria) custom
To 43mm hybrid ceramic (Saratoga race track)
To 43mm China clay (relabeled to imperial poker)
To 39mm bcc (casino de isthmus)
To 39mm Paulson RHC (relabeled as bellagio from a mix of different casinos. Bellagio $1s are actual live casino)

I sold the majestic but kept everything else and have other sets in my collection too. I appreciate all the varieties of chips and designs and like to mix it into my poker nights depending how I feel. If anything the majority of guys prefer the oversized chips the best because of the colors and size. This was my journey...so far. I’m not going to tell you what you should get. Everyone has different goals and journeys in chipping. Good luck! You’ll find what your group prefers and mostly what you prefer. Have fun, You’ll grow with the hobby. Just know your limits. You may be happy with China clay and never go to Paulson. (Lol, good luck with that). Lots of great advice from our group and lots of sources for materials like labels, milling and chips)
I think I have more fun with the colors and relabeling. I have not dipped into a custom set yet. Maybe someday when I want to go to the next level. Cheers!
 

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dge, I have owned and played with Milanos as well as Paulson/BCC/CPC over the years, so will try my best to answer some of your questions:

1/ Differences among China Clays -
Are all China clays Milano’s? You speak with great authority having owned one type. I’ve had several different types over the years and have yet to have an odor problem after some short use with any of them. Like a car.


I would love to play the Paulsons all the time but they are expensive and they do degrade over time.
WTF? Have you had some completely fall apart or do you just find dust everywhere?
 

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Are all China clays Milano’s? You speak with great authority having owned one type. I’ve had several different types over the years and have yet to have an odor problem after some short use with any of them. Like a car.



WTF? Have you had some completely fall apart or do you just find dust everywhere?
I don’t understand either about the smell. The Majestic‘s smelled when I open them up for the first time but once I clean and oiled them I’ve not had any problem since.

All I was saying about the Paulsons is that they do grind down and they do chip. They don’t stay new for very long. They are very very expensive and people need to know that they don’t stay perfect forever. Even after one session I found chunks of my chips on the felt...
For example if I have a weekly cash game with people that don’t care, I would steer clear of using Paulson‘s personally and go with something more durable. The last thing I want to do is spend that kind of money and use them all the time. But that’s just me. I would rather pay down for slightly worn set of Paulsons than a brand new mint set.
 

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My cc dunes from Apache don’t smell bad. A little plastic/dusty smell when first opened but thats it. Durability isn’t an issue and don’t think it will be. I know guys who have cc dunes and pharaohs and Have used them weekly for a few years and have had no issues. Quality control seems to have improved over the years probably due to more plastic in the composition compared to earlier versions. If you take a pair of pliers or smash them against concrete you will have an issue but even if someone throws the chips around the table you will be fine.
 

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I am a new member to this forum as well. While I'm by no means an expert and there are many members here with far more knowledge, I have owned and played with Milanos as well as Paulson/BCC/CPC over the years, so will try my best to answer some of your questions:

1/ Differences among China Clays - yes there are, but relatively minor. It is primarily aesthetics. I would say the gap between CCs and plastic dice chips, or CCs to Paulsons is much larger than differences among CCs themselves. If CCs are going to be your one and only set, then you should take the time to understand the differences. But if they are only a temporary stepping stone, I would be driven mainly by price and aesthetics. There are some pretty detailed reviews on youtube - recommended if you haven't already seen.

2/ Smell - yes they do. Not as bad as some members portray, although that may depend on your sensitivity. Getting samples will help you decide.

3/ Better starter option - since you mentioned <$0.50/chip, and ruled out ceramics and plastics, there isn't a whole lot left to choose from. CCs are probably your best bet, especially if you want an off the shelf solution and don't want to spend lots of time and effort piecing together a set over time.

Having said that, if you already have your sights set on Paulsons, expect to be somewhat disappointed by CCs. Yes they are much better than dice or 13.5g metal slugged chips, but they are still noticeably different to proper clays. They still feel a bit plasticky, and the sound, the look - and yes, the smell - well, you get what you pay for.

I don't want to put you off them. As a starter set, they are fine. There is a reason they have been the default starter set for so many. And of course it's relative - if all you have known is dice chips, you are going to be blown away by CCs. If you regularly play with Paulsons, then not so much. But you should know what you are getting into eyes wide open. Again, samples.

4/ Which to pick - since you are approaching CCs as a starter set, and acknowledge that you will (like many others) eventually upgrade to proper compression clays, I wouldn't spend too much time or money at this stage. Just go for the cheapest option.

That seems to be the Milanos for you, with an added bonus that you like the colours and inlays.

But know that you will likely take a loss if you eventually sell and upgrade - another reason to go for the cheapest option now.

As you probably know too well, many US online retailers kill non-US buyers on shipping, so it may be worth checking the Classifieds to see if you can pick up a set of CC for less than a new set. As a new member, you are not allowed to post in Classifieds yet, but you can still PM a member who has posted a set for sale.

At the risk of complicating matters, I'll just add if you are dead set on clay (good choice), there are sometimes deals to be had slightly higher than your price point. For example, the HSI sale by the Chip Room, in the Vendors section of this forum. New Paulsons for $0.60/chip. I think only $1s left now so not a complete solution and you will have to piece together a set over time, but this option does exist if you decide CCs aren't for you. If you look hard enough (and get a bit lucky), you can spend a fair bit less than $2/chip for proper clays.

Of course this is a gateway drug to milling/murdering, relabeling and custom sets, which will completely blow your budget, but I'll let more experienced members take you down that path.

Sorry this reply has gone on for a lot longer than I intended, but your post reminded me of my own journey into higher end poker chips, so I hope at least some of this has been helpful.

Good luck with your search.
Nailed it! (with only 15 posts) :tup:
 

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Are all China clays Milano’s? You speak with great authority having owned one type. I’ve had several different types over the years and have yet to have an odor problem after some short use with any of them. Like a car.
Yes, fair point. My experience with CCs is limited to Milanos, and only one set. I am by no means an expert.

Other CCs may or may not smell, different production batches of Milanos may have differing levels of smell, and different people may have varying thresholds for smell.

I can only relate my own limited experience as one data point among many on this forum. Which is all the more reason for people to seek samples and judge for themselves.
 

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The price difference for a 1,000 piece set of Paulsons vs. China clays is significant due to the prices of higher denomination Paulson chips. People like to quote the $1 chip price, but the reality is it costs way more than that. You are going to be in for $1,200 minimum. You add $500 or $1,000 denom chips to the set, well the sky is the limit. So basically triple to quadruple the price of China clays depending on what you get. So, it all depends on your needs and long term plans, and how your budget factors into those plans.

I bought Paulsons because I could afford them. I don’t plan to sell them or view them as an investment. I have just wanted real casino chips for quite a long time. If I didn’t buy those, I would have bought China clays, and they would have suited my needs just fine. I don’t like ceramics, and I don’t care about fancy pictures on my chips. I got lots of samples, and had narrowed it down to Pharaohs or Dunes, leaning towards Dunes. I may still buy some in the future if i ever start playing hold em again. That’s just me and my opinion. You have to go with what you like.
Completely agree and I may have been inadvertently misleading - apologies.

If someone wants a full 1000pc set of minty matched Paulsons with high denoms, they should be prepared to spend. No way around it.

But my poorly worded point was it is not a binary choice between CCs and Paulsons. There are other options in between.

The same Chip Room sale seems to still have IOC $5s and $25s at $0.99/chip, for example. Admittedly fracs may be tougher/pricier, but for OP's 0.25/0.25 up to 0.50/1.00 game, assuming a 100/200/200/100 breakdown, HSI $1s at $0.60 and IOC $5s and $25s at $0.99, that is 500 out of 600 chips for $417.

Versus Milanos for $300 (OP's 250€), and up to $545 for other CCs.

The x factor is fracs and shipping. But even factoring in a rack of fracs at $200, plus shipping costs, I would rather take a mixed set of proper clays (including a healthy percentage of Paulsons) over CCs at those relative prices. But that's just me.

There is some future proofing, as LinkyBabe pointed out, OP will retain more value on resale in the clays than the CCs, plus OP could decide to keep the chips but relabel with a custom design.

Also OP has ruled out ceramics, but as pointed out in an earlier post should probably give them another chance, especially at this price point. The value prop is just too compelling to not give a serious look in.

But in my book you have to buy what you love, or be cursed to keep buying until you finally do.
 

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Completely agree and I may have been inadvertently misleading - apologies.

If someone wants a full 1000pc set of minty matched Paulsons with high denoms, they should be prepared to spend. No way around it.

But my poorly worded point was it is not a binary choice between CCs and Paulsons. There are other options in between.

The same Chip Room sale seems to still have IOC $5s and $25s at $0.99/chip, for example. Admittedly fracs may be tougher/pricier, but for OP's 0.25/0.25 up to 0.50/1.00 game, assuming a 100/200/200/100 breakdown, HSI $1s at $0.60 and IOC $5s and $25s at $0.99, that is 500 out of 600 chips for $417.

Versus Milanos for $300 (OP's 250€), and up to $545 for other CCs.

The x factor is fracs and shipping. But even factoring in a rack of fracs at $200, plus shipping costs, I would rather take a mixed set of proper clays (including a healthy percentage of Paulsons) over CCs at those relative prices. But that's just me.

There is some future proofing, as LinkyBabe pointed out, OP will retain more value on resale in the clays than the CCs, plus OP could decide to keep the chips but relabel with a custom design.

Also OP has ruled out ceramics, but as pointed out in an earlier post should probably give them another chance, especially at this price point. The value prop is just too compelling to not give a serious look in.

But in my book you have to buy what you love, or be cursed to keep buying until you finally do.
Yet again, only included low denomination chips. I, for one, don’t use fracs or only low denom chips. So add a couple of racks of $100, $500, and a barrel of $1,000 chips to that set and tell me how much it would cost then? I bought exactly that for my HSI set. I paid over $1,200.00.
 

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These are the China clays that I have experience with they are labelled Milano's. They are very nice chips and if players never handled Paulson's these would be the best thing to sliced bread. These chips need to be played a few times or oiled or they are a little slippery. Also there are variances between editions of the chips with some older editions made of a thicker material. A set made out of the same material as the 50c and $50 chip would be awesome. The 2017 edition of the chips 1,5,25,100,500,1000 are slightly thinner and have less texture. The prior chips stack almost as well as Paulson's with the later being very good before getting expensive.
 

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For your purposes, I'd recommend a custom cards mold set for 30c/chip, which, being custom, you'll likely keep forever. Add a Paulson set later if desired.

Pick up some sample sets from the recent cards mold group buys -- I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. Totally customized to your specs, decent feel and performance, will last a lifetime, and you just can't beat the price for a quality chip. Can't say that about china clays.
Couldn't agree more. Having handled most of the popular cc chips and the cards mold chips, I'd opt for the card mold ceramics each and every time, especially given the price point of the cards mold chips.

If I were to go for cc's, the only option for me would be the 43mm Royals. They seem to feel and handle the best out of all the various cc chips I've tried.
 

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Yet again, only included low denomination chips. I, for one, don’t use fracs or only low denom chips. So add a couple of racks of $100, $500, and a barrel of $1,000 chips to that set and tell me how much it would cost then? I bought exactly that for my HSI set. I paid over $1,200.00.
100% agree with you high denomination HSI are expensive and will blow OPs budget.

But OP plays 0.25/0.25 up to 0.50/1.00 max with small buy-ins. So they don't need high denominations and 0.25, 1, 5, 25 should be enough to cover their game.

But you are correct, for someone else seeking a higher stakes or tourney set, it will cost a lot more because of the high denoms.

For someone in that position looking for a higher denomination starter set within a budget, I would say China clays or ceramics such as custom cards molds are great options.
 

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How do CCpC clays compare to Paulson? They are slightly lower in price, and available. Sort of like the A mold. Any feedback on CPC would be appreciated.Thanks
 

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Think there’s a ton of good info above so I won’t add too much, but:

  • I love my China clays. My friends love when I break out the Majestics, and I think the Dunes are an incredibly underrated, beautiful chip. Excellent tournament chip, and the lime greens $20s are awesome
  • If you have your heart set on a particular set, don’t worry too much about being able to find a $.05 or a $20. Can easily order custom labels and replace.
 

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How do CCpC clays compare to Paulson? They are slightly lower in price

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Sorry, but that really depends. Stock CPCs, perhaps. But you get into complicated edge spots, and shaped inlays, and you can see the per chip costs start to skyrocket.

CPC clays are not the same as Paulsons. They are lighter in weight. Their colour palette is smaller and generally darker. But they are also available with many different types of molds, and lots of possible patterns, and some different sizes too. And they are legit excellent chips. There are innumerable threads in the Custom Chips section showing off members' CPC sets.
 

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One more bullet point:
  • If you can afford to wait a bit, check out the classifieds here. Occasionally there are some great deals here, even some in Europe.
 

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100% agree with you high denomination HSI are expensive and will blow OPs budget.

But OP plays 0.25/0.25 up to 0.50/1.00 max with small buy-ins. So they don't need high denominations and 0.25, 1, 5, 25 should be enough to cover their game.

But you are correct, for someone else seeking a higher stakes or tourney set, it will cost a lot more because of the high denoms.

For someone in that position looking for a higher denomination starter set within a budget, I would say China clays or ceramics such as custom cards molds are great options.
Yeah, but guys who buy low denom cash game sets end up wanting the higher denom chips later because it’s, well, incomplete
 

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There is also a unique type of ceramics chips, the so-called hybrids. They are ceramic with a recessed area taking a laminated labels. They are so nice and totally different than other ceramics. Price range is +/- 80c each for these.

Regarding the CC, I had several series : Majestics, Dunes (from Apache) and CPS. They CPS were the ones I like the most. But I mostly bought them by meeting directly @Apache when I was in Vegas or when @ekricket when he came to Europe. Importing CC from US to Europe will make the set quite expensive but if you like their feel and are able to import them cheaply to Europe, then they are a good option, you won't go wrong with them.
 

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Another great CC thread. I'm one year plus down the road as a PCF member and I've followed the chip continuum fairly religiously, going from dice chips to china clays to Paulson varieties with an occasional ceramics dalliance. I own six complete Paulson sets at this moment.

Being able to compartmentalize, I still love china clays, for what they are - inexpensive, durable and beautiful - plus every poker player that handles them loves them (so far anyway). For some additional information and spirited debate, see this CC thread.

So, any sage advice after a year with PCF? Absolutely! If price is no object, and we've all seen those members, then buy what you want, as much as you want and when you want it! Otherwise, by budget...

50¢ per chip or less - china clay
50¢ to $1 per chip - china clays w/custom labels or ceramics or GPI promo chips (Elite, Monaco, PCF, Shuffle Master, etc.)
$1 per chip - casino used or new Paulsons (watch PCF classifieds and vendor sales, @Gear labels for inexpensive fracs)
$1+ per chip - the world is your oyster

Notes:
1) Used CC's are an incredible value and likely may be resold in the future at no loss.
2) $1 per chip Paulson cash set is absolutely possible with a little effort, patience and re-labeling (if you desire fracs in the set).

Pic #1 below shows the beauty of my favorite CC set - Dunes $40 starting stack
Pic #2 below shows a $1 per chip (average) 400-chip Paulson set - it took time, horse-trading & relabeling to meet that budget
Pic #3 & Pic #4 below compares new CC to casino used Paulson - very similar in appearance

Dunes 40 buy-in.jpg


400 set 1.jpg


Dunes & Lucky 21 1.jpg


Dunes & Lucky 21 2.jpg
 
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