Ceramic Customised chips (1 Viewer)

[MayoPokerTour]

Apologies if this isnt in the right place, im new to the site and find it a bit overwhelming tbh but looks a great resource once i get used to it. Anyway im looking to buy a set of customized ceramic chips for a local pub game i have been running for 20 years. I have ordered samples form Merchantpoker.com (link below ) and am quoted €800 for a 1,000 set customized with my logo etc and Im just wondering is this a reasonable price and has anyone dealt with merchantpoker previously? Or maybe there are other suppliers you could recommend? Thanks

https://pokermerchant.com/products/poker-chips-set-empire-1000

 

[MeridianFC]

Apologies if this isnt in the right place, im new to the site and find it a bit overwhelming tbh but looks a great resource once i get used to it. Anyway im looking to buy a set of customized ceramic chips for a local pub game i have been running for 20 years. I have ordered samples form Merchantpoker.com (link below ) and am quoted €800 for a 1,000 set customized with my logo etc and Im just wondering is this a reasonable price and has anyone dealt with merchantpoker previously? Or maybe there are other suppliers you could recommend? Thanks

https://pokermerchant.com/products/poker-chips-set-empire-1000

Depending on the quality of the chips, it seems like a fair price. @BR Pro Poker, @SUN-FLY Poker Chips, and "Tina" three of the most popular vendors for ceramics around here. That price is pretty close two what the first two offer and they are generally accepted to be the highest quality for custom ceramics. "Tina" is less expensive but there is some debate as to the relative quality (I have a set and think they're great, others not so much, do some digging around this forum).

@Machine has a very good introduction to this site:
https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/new-members-start-here.85303/

I'll just go ahead and post that to get you on your way.

Take your time! Get Samples!

 

[BGinGA]

Apologies if this isnt in the right place, im new to the site and find it a bit overwhelming tbh but looks a great resource once i get used to it. Anyway im looking to buy a set of customized ceramic chips for a local pub game i have been running for 20 years. I have ordered samples form Merchantpoker.com (link below ) and am quoted €800 for a 1,000 set customized with my logo etc and Im just wondering is this a reasonable price and has anyone dealt with merchantpoker previously? Or maybe there are other suppliers you could recommend? Thanks

https://pokermerchant.com/products/poker-chips-set-empire-1000

First questions would be how many chips do you really need, and in what denominations. Even a good price on a quality set isn't a bargain if it doesn't meet your needs or contains chips you will never use.

Is your local pub game a tournament? How many players? What chip set/breakdown are you currently using?

 

[MayoPokerTour]

I appreciate that BG but as i said ive been running pub tourneys for 20 years, i know exactly what breakdown of chips i need. Over the last few weeks ive also been keeping a detailed count of what chips were used each night.

 

[kerami]

https://pokershop.de is the same site I think, only cheaper. @pokersepp could provide more info since he owns it.

 

[Eriks]

I appreciate that BG but as i said ive been running pub tourneys for 20 years, i know exactly what breakdown of chips i need. Over the last few weeks ive also been keeping a detailed count of what chips were used each night.

With all due respect, it’s a fair question. I also knew exactly what breakdowns I needed before I learned I actually didn’t. Most that come here asking about a 1000 piece set don’t really need that many.

Not saying you’re one of them but I know it certainly doesn’t hurt to have the grand master of tournies (BG) proof read your breakdowns for you.

 

[MayoPokerTour]

Ya a fair question and i said i appreciated it, i was looking for advice on price etc, thats all. Heading off to work now, ill thro up my breakdown later on so

 

[MayoPokerTour]

Ok, this is off the top of my head. So max players is 36, tourney is usually a one re-entry and usually about 25% take this up. Starting stack is 20,000 and chip breakdwon per player is as follows
T100 - 5
T500 - 3
T1000 - 8
T5000 - 2
Once play starts i put another 20 T100s in play on each table, cashing in 2 T1000 chips. From experience this works as otherwise there are too many T100 chips in play. Re entry will be 4 x T5000.
I also want approx 50 X T25000 for cashing up etc later in tourney.
Thoughts welcome.

Blinds are usually 20 mins with BB ante
100/100/100
100/200/200
100/300/300
200/400/400
200/500/500
300/600/600
400/800/800
500/1000/1000
600/1200/1200
800/1600/1600
etc etc etc

 

[Eriks]

Looks like a very well thought out structure and breakdown. I’m not very tournament savvy and can’t really offer any improvements. I don’t count 1000 chips though.

As per your actual question, I don’t know what kind of ceramic blanks poker merchant and pokershop.de use, but I’d echo @Machine ’s suggestion of looking into brpro or sunfly. Both are excellent and Brpro can even offer (or at least could in the past) printing on Chipco blanks. Downside would be import fees.

There is also the cards mold ceramics (search on this site) from China to consider. You can get ANY design at somewhere around 35c/chip

I would suggest getting samples of all of em and decide which you like best. I bet there’s someone in the UK that can hook you up with some samples.

 

[chipinla]

how many chips do you really need

This is PCF if you forgot… The correct answer is all of the chips.

 

[Darson]

With ceramics, the quality of the blank, the print quality and the competence of the supplier all come into play. The first thing you should do is buy some samples of previously produced chips from a number of local vendors and evaluate for yourself. Then you can see if the chips are worth the price quoted.

And note that a ceramic chip is a blank canvas - you can print anything on there - so don't limit yourself to a supplier's stock design with just your logo as customization. For example:

I can recommend BRPro highly because I have several sets made by them and there is a guarantee you'll get what you want. But shipping/taxes etc from the USA to Ireland may be an unnecessary mark-up.

 

[BGinGA]

- max players is 36
- one re-entry and usually about 25%
- Starting stack is 20,000
- breakdwon per player
T100 - 5
T500 - 3
T1000 - 8
T5000 - 2
- another 20 T100s in play on each table, cashing in 2 T1000 chips.
- Re entry will be 4 x T5000.
- 50 X T25000 for cashing up

Those numbers equate to a max 850-chip set (assuming 4 tables of 9 players ea. with 5/3/8/2 starting stacks):
260 x T100 (includes the 80 added T100s)
108 x T500
288 x T1000
144 x T5000 (includes 72 for 18 re-buys)
50 x T25000 (only 15 required for color-ups)
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850 total chips, with 123 chips in play at tournament conclusion (108/15, 5k/25k)

Only 815 chips are actually required, and just 800 chips would be sufficient covering 14 re-buys. Rounding up the numbers to cover loss / damage / theft / extras puts the set at 900 chips (280+120+300+180+20).

As previously stated, €800 for 1,000 semi-customized ceramic chips is a reasonable price pending quality, although slightly-high at roughly $0.88/chip USD.

You can order completely custom chips from China for less than half that cost (<40c/chip), or you can order semi-customs from well-known and highly-respected vendor ABC/BRProPoker for $0.75/chip for 1000+ chips (or full customs for as low as $0.78/chip). Custom (or semi-custom) ceramics from Sun-Fly / ApollonChips are priced similarly to merchantpoker (but with a customized breakdown and free shipping from a proven casino chip supplier).

 

[MayoPokerTour]

Thank you. They roughly equate to my own chip figures. Went for 1,000 as a discount kicked in and always god to have a good extra supply.

Probably a stupid question but what is the difference between semi custom and full custom chips?

Ya good point about taxes etc, Merchantpoker.com are in the EU so there will be no added duty or tax and their price includes free shipping

 

[BGinGA]

what is the difference between semi custom and full custom chips?

Full customs are a complete unique design (both chip faces and edges), typically the finished print-ready artwork is supplied to the manufacturer by the buyer (or his/her design artist).

Semi-customs are a stock design offered by the manufacturer, but some aspects of the design can be customized by the buyer -- typically either changing the base colors, denominations, and/or certain text (and occasionally certain image components).

 

[MeridianFC]

Thank you. They roughly equate to my own chip figures. Went for 1,000 as a discount kicked in and always god to have a good extra supply.

Probably a stupid question but what is the difference between semi custom and full custom chips?

Ya good point about taxes etc, Merchantpoker.com are in the EU so there will be no added duty or tax and their price includes free shipping

You'll have to post some pictures when you get your chips.

Seeing your user name I keep hearing the Saw Doctors in my head!

 

[MayoPokerTour]

Hopefully we will be hearing that song all Summer. Mayo for Sam!