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I'm making a set of chips which are going to be handed out to customers as an alternative business card. This means it has to have relevant info such as contact info.

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Thoughts and feedback is welcome as usual. Thanks in advance.
 
Perhaps replace the "No Cash Value" at the bottom with the website address? Looks like a great start.

This^^ IMO there's no need for the NCV.

Also 39mm? Not sure how clear the fine text of your email will go printed that size. Might need to look into making it slightly larger
 
Cool idea.
I see your email address but no website. Maybe on the rolling edge?

Chip looks really cool though.

I think just the website instead of email address would be fine, or website and email (even if the website can be inferred from the email address). No one's going to sit at a computer or phone and email you about your products without checking out the website first, then they can just use the Contact Us page.

I know on a traditional business card your email address would be more important than the website, since it's about your contact information specifically, but for a chip I think the website URL is more important
 
The "No Cash Value" was a bit of a gimmick and absolutely doesn't need to be there. I thought it was clever but it does take up valuable retail space on the chip.

I did figure that I should have the website on there somewhere, and that it was implied from the email address but it makes sense to reverse it. Without the sales@ I can make the font larger as well. Should it be at the top or bottom? Also, should the edges say the company name or also be the website address?

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Yes I thought of doing that, but the other info doesn't really fit anywhere well. I didn't want the back to be just text. The way I was drafting it up it didn't look very good. I still have to change the fonts but this was the general idea:

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Yes I thought of doing that, but the other info doesn't really fit anywhere well. I didn't want the back to be just text. The way I was drafting it up it didn't look very good. I still have to change the fonts but this was the general idea:

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What I'd try is keep the outer ring the same on both sides. But remove the ph number from the top. Fill with Maple Ridge and have BC Canada down the bottom.

Side A have ChanMan logo large as possible centered

Side B have just the ChanMan part of the logo (remove poker tables rentals part) but smaller and higher up (just underneath outer ring). Underneath the logo have website, email etc.

Just a thought :)
 
I find that more appealing as a business card type chip than the others.

But all the designs you have are great and would work fine.
 
I'm a definite fan of the two-sider. The face is cleaner, and the info clearer.

For the info side, can I suggest skipping the logo, and using the following order?

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I think it may fit the circle better.

Also, if you wanted to make an NCV joke, maybe something like, "Unbeatable Cash Value?"
 
I don't think I need the location on the chip 3 times, it's a little overkill. Though I may want to put in the address of my shop in there. For now, this is how I've tweaked it:

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Or this version, but I don't know if I like the entire reverse being all text.

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I'm actually really worried that the text is too small. I think I have to ditch the last 2 iterations. Zoomed in to scale, the email address is super tiny. Even the website name is a little difficult to read. I'll probably have to get something a little oversized, but even then I've made the text larger.

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#18 FTW.

Is it my imagination, or is the baseline of "Poker" higher than the baseline of "Tables"? Is that deliberate?
 
Random thoughts (if you want one-size-fits-all chip then go to the observations on your current design at the bottom of the post and ignore this first part):

This may be too esoteric but I'm curious to know your target audience for this chip? For e.g., do you just want a "one-size-fits-all" chip or are you trying to achieve specific objectives such as: (a) expand your geographic market?, (b) expand to a different sort of clientele, (c) direct people to website and provide your contact information, (d) provide to people who might refer potential clients to you, or (e) just have a cool/unusual token give out? Each of these could have a different chip (I know that any of the vendors on this site will run 50 chips per design, so you're not limited to one design). Your end-goals should drive the design. Right now (if I may be candid): the chip isn't interesting, it's filled with a lot of information that is duplicative, will be hard to read, or may not be necessary. It doesn't say "pick me I'm your guy!". I think that you do great work: you have some great stuff on your website! I have read many times on this board about how awesome you and your work is: This chip just doesn't reflect that.

If you're still with me here are some additional thoughts on the above:

(a) Expand Geographic Market: Is it relevant to your customers to have location information? Isn't the purpose of this advertisement to drive people to see the awesome work that you do on your website? Identifying a location could potentially exclude customers from going to your website ("he's just local" or "Chanman doesn't do international work, only BC," etc.). You can have multiple chips made to say "Maple Ridge" or "BC, Canada" but why have location at all? If geographic location is relevant potential customers will be able to identify your location from your website, and as an added bonus they've seen your great product!

(b) Different Clientele: Are they sophisticated, well-healed, businesses, individuals, community halls that put on tournaments and need rental tables? It depends on what they expect. If it is for high-end work, your chip should reflect innovative/cool design; if it's for table rentals, a simpler design emphasizing "cost effective rentals" may be more appropriate.

(c) Provide Contact Info.: IMHO, the most important things on your chip are (a) a clear message about what you do (yes), (b) easy to read and find contact information (information is there, but it will be hard to read at this font size so this needs to be larger) and (c) something memorable (no). (If you really want to drive people to your website you could always put a QR code on the back but personally I think that would be a waste of creative space.)

(d) Referrals: The obverse side could encourage certain behaviour by saying something like: "Pass this on for _____" fill in the blank.


It's hard to give more without understanding what you're trying to achieve.


Observations on your current design:

1. Delete "Maple Ridge" or "BC, Canada" on the first side and replace them with your tel. number and email (the font used can now be larger and therefore easier to read). Most people will be able to extrapolate an email address into a URL, so you just need "Sales@ChanmanPokerTables.com" but not the additional "ChanmanPokerTables.com."

2. Delete "Maple Ridge" or "BC, Canada" on the other side and replace with a catch phrase that resonates with you. Your website splash page says emphasizes "Your Northwest Gaming Supplier" and "Custom Poker Tables" while your "About Us" page emphasizes: "Customization, Quality, Customer Service." You also say on the "Process" page: "A true piece of furniture." Why not say something like that on the other side of the chip where you now say Maple Ridge/BC, Canada? "Make your gaming room special" or "Make gamblers envious" or whatever. You get the idea.

3. Doing 1 and 2 means that you have now freed up a lot of the chip for other creative things that may be more relevant to your audience (such as a cool design, or "design your perfect table" or "sophisticated tables" or whatever). If you want ideas consult your competition's websites and you'll quickly see what does and doesn't appeal to you.



My 2c.
 
Thank you for the awesome feedback sat guru. Your 2c feels like it's worth a lot more than $0.02 :)

My main target marking with these business chips is for my local market. I am going to have a booth at a Home & Garden show in February and I'm getting all of my marketing material prepared such as business cards, brochures and I wanted to make this addition as something that makes me stand out from other booths. I'm sure that people going through the trade show will have a pocket full of business cards from vendors so mine should be unique if they decide to take a chip rather than a business card, or both.

This is one of the main reasons I wanted my location on the chip, to let people know that I am local and not in another province. I will probably make another chip in the future for international business and will probably have a pretty different design.

I think I may have to come up with some sort of combination of post #7 and #18 like so:

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That information helps greatly. This post is only tangentially about the chip, and more about in sales/marketing strategy landia. If you're not interested in that then immediately stop reading and go to the next post.

Given what you've said I would suggest that you get two chips and you don't buy business cards. Instead spend the $ on more chips! (A popular refrain on this forum!)

Yes, no business cards: Radical, but don't have one, it's a waste of $ b/c people promptly forget about them, just throw them in a drawer or trash them. Save your $ and get more chips. You're in gaming: of course you don't have a business card, why would you? Your target customer needs chips (and tables, etc.). So it's a natural play, not a gimmick. Have one style of chip freely available lying around in your booth and encourage people to take one for their colleagues, etc. A chip is going to be handled and recognized every time someone opens their drawer, it's physical so it will be played with, and it's something unique to bring home from a show, so people who get one will say "cool, huh?" I will be really surprised if attendees don't gravitate to your booth just to get their own chip: booth traffic is exactly what you want and it's why you're spending money on a booth in the first place. Hence I encourage you to get more chips than you think you need. Here's conceptually how I would approach it and some observations on the chip above (I don't know your budget or how important this show is, so modify as appropriate):

Chip 1 (post #23): I like a lot of the changes that you've made, but let me suggest some tweaks. Instead of the two suits on the obverse use two dice. Delete the Maple Leaf on both sides of the chip: they are distracting and I don't believe that a Maple Leaf has any special affiliation with gaming based on the Canadians that I have met (if you want to keep them for some reason, then replace each of the two suits on the back with a Maple Leaf instead of dice). Delete "chanmanpokertables.com" on the front of the chip: the text will be unreadable if it's 39mm (and people can figure the URL out from your email anyway). The "w" in Northwest is not capitalized (there might be a colloquial reason for doing so, but it is not general usage). Delete the "ChanMan" logo on the back and use that whole back canvas to emphasize your message. I would spend some time thinking about how to make the message more impactful. I do like your current message but it's wordy. The message (preferably a question) can be longer or have larger text now that the ChanMan logo is gone: Perhaps something like "Do you deserve custom, handcrafted gaming furniture?" Do you think that you can find me one person (especially on this forum) who will say no to that question? People are now thinking about what you do and how much they deserve it. That is much more powerful than you saying what you do.

Chip 2 (the "special, limited edition" chip): Same front, same general back, but instead of the current "ChanMan" (which I have advocated deleting) and the current text, do something like adding serial numbers to them and voila: "special, limited edition" chips. Hold a raffle at some point for some gaming related prizes - doesn't even have to be at the show: do it at some later time. ("Go to my website on blah blah date and discover if you won! Driving traffic to you and another touch reinforcing what you do to them.) Change the color of the outside rings and on the rolling edge to a contrasting color so that they are immediately distinguishable at a glance from Chip 1. (Orange would be my suggestion as it is a power color, typically is a higher value chip and combines well with blue.) Potential raffle prizes could include - dare I say it here - dice chips (or Milano's or something reasonable) or nice playing cards, or a high quality poker table and chips delivered for "your next poker night," or whatever as long as it is low cost to, and easy for, you. Critically, to get the "special, limited edition" chip the recipient has to do something for you. These chips will not be on your booth table, but only available from you (or whoever is at the booth with you). No one can get more than one chip - so you have to say "no" when people want to get one "for their friend" etc. - because the chip is designed to get each person to do what you want them to do. Things that they can do for you include (purely as examples): provide you with a business card or write down contact information or tell you what they do or introduce you to a potential client or tell you the name of someone who may need your services. Obv. you will acquiesce to anyone who can't/doesn't want to do that thing and nonetheless give them a chip. People will really want this special chip. Every time someone collects a regular chip, you should ask them if they have any interest in a raffle which requires a "special, limited edition chip." They will be. Your response should be: "OK, I will give you one, but would you mind doing something for me first?" Then ask them to do that thing. They will do it. The text on the back of Chip 2 should say something different from Chip 1 like: "Winners go with Tony!" or "Make your next night special with Tony!" or "Get what you deserve from Tony!" Apologies, these are a little hokey, but it's all I have to offer right now. This chip will create buzz, because show attendees will ask others: "Did you get the orange chip from Tony?" Everyone now has two pieces of your contact information: they will keep the "special" one and have a much higher likelihood of giving the other one to a prospective client. That's what you want: you are now memorable. In addition, you are expanding your customer base, and getting ideas for people you should be reaching out to.

As you can see, my philosophy is that your actual goal at any conference should be to get other people to help you broaden your target customer base so you want to get OTHER people's business cards and THEIR ideas on expanding your business. By giving someone something physical like a chip they will generally feel obliged to leave you with something, and that something should be their card or an idea that helps you. (If you have any interest in learning more do a search for "Cialdini Reciprocity" - it's interesting stuff if you have an interest in sales/marketing esoterica.)

In addition (as we are marketing/sales landia in this post), let me suggest that you sign up for Evernote Premium (www.evernote.com) annual plan ($49.99 per annum: less than a latte a month). IMHO it is one of the critical tools in existence for sales/marketing (especially smaller businesses). The reason to sign up for premium is that it has a very cool feature: you don't need to get someone's card, you just ask to borrow it for 10 seconds. Once it is in your hand, you take a picture of the business card within the evernote app on your phone, and evernote will create a note of that card, populate that note with the text on that card, retain a picture of the card, and allow you to immediately send (a) an email to that person with your contact information and (b) send them a LinkedIn invitation. Immediately give that card back to that person or throw it away as you no longer need it because you now captured their information and it is easy to search for! Your Evernote data is available on any device that has internet connection, a web portal, and you can download your Evernote notes locally to your phone or your computer. If you look up someone's name from within the app it will find the note for the card, allow you to select their tel # which you can automatically dial, or select their email and it will create an email addressed to them. You can the same thing to that pile of cards on your desk that you never look at and throw them away afterwards. Obviously I'm a huge Evernote fan. This process is really easy and takes less than 30 seconds per person, and a lot of people are intrigued when they see it because they have never seen it before: another reason for them to remember you.

The above is more like $2, US. I've seen the exchange rate.
 
I really appreciate you taking the time to give me your advice.

Although I understand your logic about completing eliminating business cards, I feel that I still need them for the more traditional business where giving a poker chip is not appropriate or the customer just wants a business card, perhaps for their rolodex. At least they have the option to take one if I have them, or take both a card and a chip if they so choose. I will be pushing the chip over the business card whenever I can though.

Chip 1 (post #23): Delete the Maple Leaf on both sides of the chip: they are distracting and I don't believe that a Maple Leaf has any special affiliation with gaming based on the Canadians that I have met (if you want to keep them for some reason, then replace each of the two suits on the back with a Maple Leaf instead of dice).
I will remove the back side maple leaf but the front side maple leaf is part of my logo. I'd like to keep that one.

Delete "chanmanpokertables.com" on the front of the chip: the text will be unreadable if it's 39mm (and people can figure the URL out from your email anyway).
Agreed

The "w" in Northwest is not capitalized (there might be a colloquial reason for doing so, but it is not general usage).
Yes I did this to emphasize the word West, but I guess it does look more like a typo so I'll fix that.

Delete the "ChanMan" logo on the back and use that whole back canvas to emphasize your message. I would spend some time thinking about how to make the message more impactful. I do like your current message but it's wordy. The message (preferably a question) can be longer or have larger text now that the ChanMan logo is gone: Perhaps something like "Do you deserve custom, handcrafted gaming furniture?" Do you think that you can find me one person (especially on this forum) who will say no to that question? People are now thinking about what you do and how much they deserve it. That is much more powerful than you saying what you do.
I really like this idea of using a question. I will try to think of something impactful to ask which would encourage someone to think they should buy a poker table.

As far as using 2 chips, I'm not sure I will go that route. I am actually holding a contest for a set of wood chip trays and I was going to give the URL to everyone who visits me at the booth. I would also think that it would be difficult/costly to put a unique number on every chip, unless chip manufacturers have the option to put sequential numbers on different chips. But I will keep it in mind and determine if I want to do this or not.

I will definitely look into Evernote Premium. I use evernote already but haven't looked at the premium features. The price is very reasonable as well for what it can do. Thanks for the tip.
 
Another revision. I like that the front is really clean, just the logo with info around the border.

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I would also think that it would be difficult/costly to put a unique number on every chip, unless chip manufacturers have the option to put sequential numbers on different chips. But I will keep it in mind and determine if I want to do this or not.

They do have this ability: I just did this on some custom chips w/one of this site's sponsors. The cost was a one time $75 set-up fee and an additional $0.06/chip.

Observations: Really like how you've put this all together: the dice look great and I agree that it looks really clean. I might consider moving the logo and text on the front higher up now that you've freed up that space. I anticipate that the front will then look more balanced with additional white space at the bottom rather than the top. The text on the back requires a comma after "custom." I would lean toward putting the question mark immediately after "table." The question mark is fine as is, so that's purely a design choice for you to make.
 
I noticed the logo was too low as soon as I posted the photo, I've moved it up for a more centered look. Oh yeah, comma... And the question mark was originally after the word table but I thought this looked a bit better. I'll play around with it. Thanks again for all the feedback.
 
Just wondering if a watermark of a table would add a little pop, or if it would just muddy the chip...
 

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