Cancelled Cavanaugh's $1 with shaped, gold inlays! Unique! Once in a lifetime opportunity! (1 Viewer)

[allforcharity]

Hear ye, hear ye!

For your consideration, we have a supply of $1 chips from the closed card room in the Cavanaugh Motor Inn, Kalispell, Montana up for auction.

Beautiful, solid Paulson THC mold with a cog-shaped inlay, very rare among low-denomination chips. Inlay is also an equally rare base golden colour, not to be mistaken for “old faded white”. Condition is casino used, from fair to good, still nice and plenty of play life left. (Base chip hue is more green than in the picture.)

Auction price is for one lot of 100 chips. There are a limited number of lots available, which are likely all that’s available in any real quantity on the secondary market. The winner of the auction (determined as per the auction rules below) will have the opportunity to purchase as many lots as is wanted, up to the total number of lots available, and each for the winning auction bid. If there are lots still available after the auction winner has fully paid for the lots desired, then the remaining lots may be offered to other bidders of the auction in order of highest bidders first, AT THE SELLER’S DISCRETION.

Bidders are not required to pre-specify how many lots they are interested in acquiring, if they happen to be the winning bidder.

To encourage more active bidding and purchase of multiple lots, I, as the seller, reserve the right to offer incentives to the highest bidder(s). These incentives may include, but are not necessarily limited to, discounts based on number of lots ordered, favourable shipping terms, and bonus chips. These incentives shall be revealed and offered only to the winning bidder(s) AFTER the official close of the auction, so as to keep a level playing field among potential bidders.

Feel free to ask questions in the auction thread. We shall endeavor to answer quickly and to the fullest extent of our knowledge.

Ladies and gentlemen, let the bidding start!



RULES

1. STARTING BID: $125 (per lot of 100 chips), all pricing in US dollars.
2. Bids must be placed in minimum increments of $5
3. The Starting Bid of the auction will be treated as the Reserve Price.
4. All bids are to be placed openly in this thread. No bids via PM/Conversation.
5. Auction will use the '5 minutes after last closing bid rule'. Highest bid at 0800h, Pacific Time, Saturday July 21, 2018 will win unless there is a bid within 5 minutes of closing time - then the closing time will be 5 min. after the latest bid was posted.
6. Edited posts will be voided.
7. I reserve the right to: i) cancel the auction if no bids have been made; ii) edit the listing to correct errors or clarify rules as needed.
8. PCF (it's Owner, Admins, and Moderators) are in no way responsible for any actions in this auction.
9. Shipping Terms: Will ship worldwide. Buyer to pay actual shipping costs. US destinations will be shipped from the US. Canadian and International destinations will be shipped from Canada (may cause slight delay in shipping).
10. Payment Terms: All payment in US dollars via PayPal Friends & Family, or PayPal Goods & Services with an extra 4% surcharge to cover fees. Do NOT convert to Canadian dollars.

 

[kmccormick100]

Damnit, so bummed I missed the end of the auction, are you gonna be selling the $20s or $100s?

 

[liftapint]

Do you have more photos of these racked up, to get a better idea of wear and condition?
Cool chips, no doubt.

 

[allforcharity]

Damnit, so bummed I missed the end of the auction, are you gonna be selling the $20s or $100s?

See sample set thread, just posted. There are so few of these chips, these are the only ones I can offer.

 

[allforcharity]

Do you have more photos of these racked up, to get a better idea of wear and condition?
Cool chips, no doubt.

This is the best I can do for now:

Edges not exactly sharp, but also not nearly bicycle tires. Could use a cleaning.

 

[StevenM]

This is the best I can do for now:

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Edges not exactly sharp, but also not nearly bicycle tires. Could use a cleaning.

More than a few $1’s there!!!

 

[allforcharity]

More than a few $1’s there!!!

That's all that there are in the market. I'm keeping a portion.

 

[StevenM]

That's all that there are in the market. I'm keeping a portion.

I know I’ll never own a stack like that - looks cool!

 

[allforcharity]

If anyone wants to talk bulk rack pricing to start a limit set, PM me.

 

[Shaggy]

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[navels]

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/thre...que-opportunity-limited-lots-available.31520/

 

[allforcharity]

This is an *especially* good opportunity for a new chipper to get a couple (or miore) racks of genuine rare Paulsons to start a cash set as just a little bit more than the cost of a fully custom ceramic. BUMP!

 

[allforcharity]

Hmmm....

 

[liftapint]

A week-long auction is a snooze-fest. Just sayin’. I think it bores the crap out of potential bidders. It is my short-attention-span opinion that 1-3 day auctions are much better. That said...GLWA, neat chips!

 

[warewulf]

Might help to better describe the condition.

Will they stand on edge? Looks like they won't from the pictures above.

 

[allforcharity]

@navels will put up a couple of extra pics and fully describe the condition as he has them in hand

 

[navels]

I really dig these chips. They are definitely broken in but not nearly at the bicycle tire stage. They feel very buttery and shuffle great. Some stand on edge but most are just past the point of being able to do so. The combination of the dark, muted green color and gold inlay is really neat, gives the chip a sort of "smoky, back-room, speakeasy" feel if that makes any sense. Some of the chips are not as smooth and shiny as others, making me think that some have been oiled, but I'm just guessing. You can see this in the pictures below where I highlight a barrel of each.

 

[liftapint]

Thanks @navels! Very helpful!

 

[ovo]

So what color would you call them Indian Blue ??

 

[allforcharity]

They look a little dark for Indian Blue. But my Paulson sample set is not complete.

Only 6 racks of 1's available, as a large lot is pending sale. Still enough for a couple good size cash sets.

 

[BGinGA]

Don't wanna rain on your parade, but those are discolored white inlays caused by aging and/or exposure to water, oil, or UV rays, not a "rare base golden color". This is evident by the irregular amount of discoloration found on the various inlays.

An actual different base color inlay would be uniform across all chips, as would an intentional color gradient design.

 

[allforcharity]

Don't wanna rain on your parade, but those are discolored white inlays caused by aging and/or exposure to water, oil, or UV rays, not a "rare base golden color". This is evident by the irregular amount of discoloration found on the various inlays.

An actual different base color inlay would be uniform across all chips, as would an intentional color gradient design.

According to chipguide, all inlays for Cavanaughs (and Grouse Mountain Lodge) are all base colour gold. Exposure is probably off on the original auction pics because of brightness adjustment.

 

[navels]

They look pretty real to me in person. There is obviously some wear on the $1s and to a lesser extent on the $5s (as you would expect given the use).

 

[allforcharity]

I copied this from the other ad. You can clearly see the gold label of the Cavanaugh 1's underneath the Grouse Mountains. There is a little bit of fading to white due to age and use on the edges of the cog, but the base colour is, indeed, a rare gold colour.

 

[eventurtle]

This is the best I can do for now:

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Edges not exactly sharp, but also not nearly bicycle tires. Could use a cleaning.

do you have 5$ or 50 or 25 cent chips

 

[BGinGA]

I copied this from the other ad. You can clearly see the gold label of the Cavanaugh 1's underneath the Grouse Mountains. There is a little bit of fading to white due to age and use on the edges of the cog, but the base colour is, indeed, a rare gold colour.

Sorry, not buying it. That is exactly how age- and UV-affected inlays can appear.

 

[navels]

Sorry, not buying it. That is exactly how age- and UV-affected inlays can appear.

I am finding this really hard to swallow given the evenness of the gold coloring on the higher-denomination mint chips. There is also the chipguide, which of course could be wrong but you've got three different contributors with the same gold-colored inlays.

Do you have pictures of age- and UV-affected inlays that look like this?

 

[BGinGA]

I am finding this really hard to swallow given the evenness of the gold coloring on the higher-denomination mint chips. There is also the chipguide, which of course could be wrong but you've got three different contributors with the same gold-colored inlays.

Do you have pictures of age- and UV-affected inlays that look like this?

Are all of the higher denominations totally gold with zero whitening? Are any of the $1 chips all gold on one side, but discolored on the opposite side?

No pics handy, but there have been multiple examples of this from previous chip scores. I have a few example chips that show it; I'll hunt them down.

Doesn't change the awesomeness of this set, however. But I think it can be a bit (intentionally) misleading to those unaware to not point out the discoloration that is apparent on many of the $1 chips.

 

[navels]

Are all of the higher denominations totally gold with zero whitening?

Yes

Are any of the $1 chips all gold on one side, but discolored on the opposite side?

I'll take more pics tonight or tomorrow morning.

 

[DrStrange]

I was under the impression that the Chip Guide was generally accepted as an accurate source of information. Perhaps not perfect, but the default assumption for them is that the images, descriptions and text is authoritative.

Linked below is the Chip Guide entry for Cavanaugh's in Montana - now defunct. While it is possible that all the chips from Cavanaugh's has a "white" label/inlay that has faded to "gold" or been stained somehow, I wouldn't assume that to be the case without some evidence. The Chip Guide images show the same shade of "gold" as the images in this thread.

I would not accept an argument of "prove the chips weren't faded" vs assuming the images on the Chip Guide and elsewhere (including those in this thread) as being valid. Collectively we have millions of vintage casino chips. I don't know of any instance where the entire stock of chips had inlays that faded uniformly into another color. Yes we have seen individual chips suffering from damage but not the entire stock of chips and not uniform.

It is possible that a common cause of variance is in play. Maybe all the chips got exposed to water or some cleanser or a gas of some sort. However, I expect the parties proposing this sort of explanation to bear the burden of proof.

And in the end, I am not sure it matters at all. So long as the inlays don't look bad - - - does it matter if they were made with off-white inlays that faded uniformly to gold or if they were made exactly as they look today?

DrStrange

http://www.themogh.org/cg_chip2.php?id=MTKACA