Cash Set Breakdown (1 Viewer)

[CraigT78]

All,

Curious as to how many chips I would need to host 2, 8-player tables for mixed cash games. I am looking at a custom set with the following denoms:

$.25
$1.00
$5.00
$20.00

I might add $100 chips or plaques, but not initially.

I would like to spread $.25/$.50 games for the neighborhood guys, and $1/$2 for the regulars.

I was thinking:

$.25 - 200
$1.00 - 300
$5.00 - 400
$20.00 - 100

Does that break down sound right? Do I need more fracs or singles?

 

[detroitdad]

Figure out what you want your starting stacks to be. Then multiply it by 16. Add enough for rebuy's, extras, ect.....

Poker Chip Calculator is an awesome tool

http://www.homepokertourney.com/poker-chip-calculator.htm

 

[detroitdad]

I like lots of ones in play for my .25/.50 game.

My starting stacks are

12 x .25
17 x 1
11 x 5
1 x 25

100.00 buy in.

For a 1/2 game your fives will be the work horse so you'll need a bunch of those.

 

[CraigT78]

Figure out what you want your starting stacks to be. Then multiply it by 16. Add enough for rebuy's, extras, ect.....

Poker Chip Calculator is an awesome tool

http://www.homepokertourney.com/poker-chip-calculator.htm

That helps for a tournament - but is it the same for a cash game where a player might buy in for minimum and 6 players for max?

 

[detroitdad]

That helps for a tournament - but is it the same for a cash game where a player might buy in for minimum and 6 players for max?

Yes it helps for a cash game. Just assume everyone buys in for the max (whatever your max is) and base it off of that.

 

[ChaosRock]

All,

Curious as to how many chips I would need to host 2, 8-player tables for mixed cash games. I am looking at a custom set with the following denoms:

$.25
$1.00
$5.00
$20.00

I might add $100 chips or plaques, but not initially.

I would like to spread $.25/$.50 games for the neighborhood guys, and $1/$2 for the regulars.

I was thinking:

$.25 - 200
$1.00 - 300
$5.00 - 400
$20.00 - 100

Does that break down sound right? Do I need more fracs or singles?

My default breakdown for a flexible one table set is 100/200/400/100/+... For two tables you can get away having a little less than 800 $5s... I believe your proposed breakdown will be short when you play two tables of $1/$2...

 

[krafticus]

You would not need to start everyone with a standard starting stack.
for 2 tables, if you are doing 25/50, you could do

200 x $.25
300 x $1
400 x $5
100 x mix of $25 and $100, or just add more $5's. depends on how big the game gets.

If you want to do 1/2, add more 5's and a rack of 25's or so. worst case for cash games, money plays

Do you have a number of chips you are looking to work with?

 

[manamongkids]

$.25 - 200
$1.00 - 300
$5.00 - 400
$20.00 - 80
$100 - 20

my suggestion

 

[CraigT78]

You would not need to start everyone with a standard starting stack.
for 2 tables, if you are doing 25/50, you could do

200 x $.25
300 x $1
400 x $5
100 x mix of $25 and $100, or just add more $5's. depends on how big the game gets.

If you want to do 1/2, add more 5's and a rack of 25's or so. worst case for cash games, money plays

Do you have a number of chips you are looking to work with?

I would like to keep the number of chips under 1,200. I would prefer 1,000.

 

[CraigT78]

my suggestion

Can I order only 20 chips of one color from CPC? I was under the assumption they had to be full racks......but I was wrong once before.

 

[krafticus]

I would like to keep the number of chips under 1,200. I would prefer 1,000.

Sorry, change my 25's to 20's as a re-read your OP.

I think the 1000 piece set works for 2 tables. If you only do 1 table of 1/2, it could still work. If you did 80x $20 and 20x $100, that makes your bank just a schoch under 6k, which should be more than enough. at a 300 BI per person for 1 table max, that gives you 19 buy ins.

mark

 

[krafticus]

Can I order only 20 chips of one color from CPC? I was under the assumption they had to be full racks......but I was wrong once before.

You can if you order enough chips.
My set is a 200/300/400/80/20 and I had no problems with my then ASM order. it also was more than enough for my 1/1 $200 max bi 1 table game

 

[links_slayer]

Can I order only 20 chips of one color from CPC? I was under the assumption they had to be full racks......but I was wrong once before.

It's best to ask David. There used to be a general rule of 1 different chip per 100 ordered. So if you ordered 500 you could have 5 different chips, with no minimum for each denom. He's been very reasonable to work with (in my experience).

 

[CraigT78]

Sorry, change my 25's to 20's as a re-read your OP.

I think the 1000 piece set works for 2 tables. If you only do 1 table of 1/2, it could still work. If you did 80x $20 and 20x $100, that makes your bank just a schoch under 6k, which should be more than enough. at a 300 BI per person for 1 table max, that gives you 19 buy ins.

mark

Funny - it would be the other way around. On my league tournament nights we sometimes will get two $1/$2 tables going. The $.25/$.50 nights would likely only ever be a single table as it is usually more of a guys night drinking event, where the noobs play.

I currently have a set of milanos that I use for cash games, 400 $1 and 400 $5. When I add in the $25, it is enough chips, almost. I just want to make sure I order enough of each.

 

[manamongkids]

Can I order only 20 chips of one color from CPC? I was under the assumption they had to be full racks......but I was wrong once before.

generally they want 100 average I believe.

so if you order 400 chips, you can only have 4 denominations/inlays

if you order 1000 chips, you conceivably could have 10 diff inlays

 

[CraigT78]

my suggestion

It looks like this breakout would work just fine for a two table 16 player spread. I could do a 15/25/3 starting stack for 1/2 and put all the red on the table to start - rebuys with $20 or $100's. Everyone gets a starting stack with 43 chips. If my budget allows, I can add an additional rack of $5's.

If I ran $.25/$.50 starting stacks could be 10/17/6 for a $50 buy in, 33 chips each.

I can't imagine my bank needing to be more than $6k. If so, I guess I could always steal a 500 chip or two from the tournament set, and then plan on making a couple of plaques. Thanks for the comments all.

 

[detroitdad]

10/17/6 for a $50 buy in, 33 chips each.

wold have to be 12 quarters. 10 gives you $2.50

 

[CraigT78]

wold have to be 12 quarters. 10 gives you $2.50

You're right! The pdf for the chip calculator doesn't seem to handle fracs well, it rounded it to $3

 

[courage]

The OP bank is short by a lot for mixed game 16 players at 1/1, let alone 1/2. I'd suggest:

.25 - 160
$1 - 300
$5 - 600
$25 - 100
$100 - 40

 

[Irish]

Funny - it would be the other way around. On my league tournament nights we sometimes will get two $1/$2 tables going. The $.25/$.50 nights would likely only ever be a single table as it is usually more of a guys night drinking event, where the noobs play.

I currently have a set of milanos that I use for cash games, 400 $1 and 400 $5. When I add in the $25, it is enough chips, almost. I just want to make sure I order enough of each.

If you only need enough chips to spread 25¢/50¢ for a single 8 person table, I'd only get one rack of quarters:

100 - 25¢
300 - $1
400 - $5
180 - $20
20 - $100

Gives you enough chips to support a single 25¢/50¢ table ($50 buy-in, 12/17/6), or two tables of $1/$2 ($300 buy-in, 15/25/8) with enough higher denoms for a good amount of rebuys, total bank of ~$8k. Or even out the rack of $20s to 200 and get some plaques for $100s.

 

[CraigT78]

If you only need enough chips to spread 25¢/50¢ for a single 8 person table, I'd only get one rack of quarters:

100 - 25¢
300 - $1
400 - $5
180 - $20
20 - $100

Gives you enough chips to support a single 25¢/50¢ table ($50 buy-in, 12/17/6), or two tables of $1/$2 ($300 buy-in, 15/25/8) with enough higher denoms for a good amount of rebuys, total bank of ~$8k. Or even out the rack of $20s to 200 and get some plaques for $100s.

Good call - I didn't figure in that I would only need the fracs for a single table. Figuring out how many chips to get is a tougher decision than naming a kid. Sheesh!

 

[justsomedude]

I think a lot of the suggestions here are great, but a lot of it will come down to personal preference, how your group plays, and how "splashy" you want your pots to be. Also, what are your buyins? There is a wide range of ways to run a .25/.50 table, and that will effect your stacks/chipset.

For me, having more than 120 quarters on a .25/.50 table just gets silly, because the $1 is our workhorse in that game and your quarters will just take up valuable real estate in your chipset. If, however, you have a group of tight players who don't want to spend more than $25 on a buyin, more quarters makes sense.

We run a $25min / $80max buyin on our .25/.50 table. I am running my first $1/$2 table next month with a $300 max buyin and here is my set breakdown. I'm running one .25/.50 table and one $1/$2 table...

120 x $.25
400 x $1.00
600 x $5.00
100 x $25.00*
30 x $100 (plaques)

That's 1,220 chips total. I go heavy on the 1's, simply because I hate having 20-30 $5 chips in play on a .25/.50 table. It's too easy to rathole them and players quickly lose track of stack counts with so few reds on the table. I also have a ton of the $5.00 plaques, but that's another story for another day. If you really want to keep with the 1k chipset limit, I would recommend this breakdown...

100 x $.25
400 x $1.00
400 x $5.00
100 x $25.00*

Method to my madness: I reduced the set of $5s and kept the $1s at 400 because, remember, you'll need at least 100x$1s in play on your $1/$2 table, and you don't want to make the .25/.50 table short on their workhorse chip. Also, this setup gives you a total bank of $4,930, and you can supplement with 20-30 $100 plaques if necessary.

* Replace $25.00 with $20.00 chips as needed. I just list them because it's what I have in my Stardust set.

 

[jbutler]

100 (.25)
300 (1)
800 (5)
160 (25)
40 (100)

I try to account for 3 buy-ins per player, so the $1/2 game (assuming an average buy-in of $250) would need $12k. Even if you only want 2 buy-ins per player, you'll need $8k, but you can shave off a rack by going:

100 (.25)
300 (1)
800 (5)
80 (25)
20 (100)

Although in that circumstance I might still do a 60/40 between the $25 and $100 chips just to be safe.

 

[CraigT78]

I think a lot of the suggestions here are great, but a lot of it will come down to personal preference, how your group plays, and how "splashy" you want your pots to be. Also, what are your buyins? There is a wide range of ways to run a .25/.50 table, and that will effect your stacks/chipset.

For me, having more than 120 quarters on a .25/.50 table just gets silly, because the $1 is our workhorse in that game and your quarters will just take up valuable real estate in your chipset. If, however, you have a group of tight players who don't want to spend more than $25 on a buyin, more quarters makes sense.

The .25/.50 game would be a max buy in of $40 to $50 - most guys just throwing a few $20's away while smoking cigars and drinking beers

 

[CraigT78]

100 (.25)
300 (1)
800 (5)
160 (25)
40 (100)

I try to account for 3 buy-ins per player, so the $1/2 game (assuming an average buy-in of $250) would need $12k. Even if you only want 2 buy-ins per player, you'll need $8k, but you can shave off a rack by going:

100 (.25)
300 (1)
800 (5)
80 (25)
20 (100)

Although in that circumstance I might still do a 60/40 between the $25 and $100 chips just to be safe.

Thanks - that helps. I've never had my bank go above 6k, but in the event I get two full tables for a cash game, I guess it easily could. I will consider the additional racks of 5s

 

[justsomedude]

The .25/.50 game would be a max buy in of $40 to $50 - most guys just throwing a few $20's away while smoking cigars and drinking beers

Yea - that's already $320 - $400 in play right off the bat. With rebuys you may get $500 - $600 in play on that low stakes table. To be totally honest, you may find a 1,000 chip set too limiting.

If you only have 300x$1s, you really only have 200 of them for the .25/.50 table (remember, 100x$1s are on the $1/$2 table). So then you'll need to supplement that table with a rack of $5s to cover the remainder, which now takes chips away from your $1/$2 table.

 

[CraigT78]

Yea - that's already $320 - $400 in play right off the bat. With rebuys you may get $500 - $600 in play. To be totally honest, you may find a 1,000 chip set too limiting.

If you only have 300x$1s, you really only have 200 of them for the .25/.50 table (remember, 100x$1s are on the $1/$2 table). So then you'll need to supplement 60x$5s to cover the remainder, which takes chips away from your $1/$2 table.

I won't have a .25/.50 table going the same time as 1/2. Two different nights. The .25/.50 game would only ever be a single table for a guys night with my neighbors. (At least that's the plan)

 

[jbutler]

Thanks - that helps. I've never had my bank go above 6k, but in the event I get two full tables for a cash game, I guess it easily could. I will consider the additional racks of 5s

My breakdown assumes you want to give out all initial buy-ins in all white and red. If you wanted to do 2 greens with each initial buy-in and only assume 2 total buy-ins per player, you could still get by with:

100 (.25)
300 (1)
600 (5)
60 (25)
40 (100)

 

[justsomedude]

I won't have a .25/.50 table going the same time as 1/2. Two different nights. The .25/.50 game would only ever be a single table for a guys night with my neighbors. (At least that's the plan)

Ahhhhhh.... ok. Now I'm with ya!

 

[jja412]

My cash set breakdown (made to cover 5c/10c up to $1/$2, 2 tables):

160 - 5c
200 - 25c
400 - $1
600 - $5
100 - $20
40 - $100

Subtract the nickels (since you don't play that low), and you are good to go.

I actually have a rack of $100 and am always on the lookout to complete my 2nd rack of nickels because it tilts me to have partial racks ...

I figure that will cover my meager game until the end of existence, even with inflation figured in.