CardPlayer has the nerve to call this a Home Game

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just saw this on Facebook, this is by no definition I apply a "home game". This is a frigging high-stakes business. Truly awful and biased reporting, guess it doesn't surprise me, media is gonna media.

Poker Players Take Plea Deal After SWAT Team Raids Their Virginia Home Game

Virginia Again Proves To Be Extremely Hostile To Card Players


Last week, lawyers for a group of poker players were gearing up to challenge the fascist law in the state of Virginia after a militarized police force stormed the players’ home poker game with semi-automatic weapons drawn this past November, the Washington Post reported.But the state decided to offer them a deal.

The Great Falls home game featuring a $20,000 buy-in with hired dealers and masseuses was raided and $150,000 in cash was seized from the game’s host. Players in the game were charged with crimes for engaging in illegal gambling, though the defense was prepared to fight the allegations due to poker irrefutably being a game based on skill, not chance. The state argued that since a small cut of the buy-ins was taken to pay for the game’s amenities it then constitutes illegal gambling.

The poker game in question, located not far from Washington, D.C., had been running for several years and several well-known poker pros had played in it in the past, the report said.

The criminal case will not go to trial, but it doesn’t mean the unnamed poker players won.

[T]he Fairfax prosecutors, with what the lawyers said was the police detectives’ blessing, cut them a deal: stay clean for six months and the gambling charge would be dismissed, and eligible to be expunged from their record. And for those who had cash seized from them—one player had more than $20,000, the regular player said—the police agreed to return 60 percent of the money, and keep 40 percent.

 
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That article is poorly written and misleading about certain points. But the law is clear, which is why I many years ago stopped adding on $5 to cover food and drink at my home games. So long as the host does not in any way take money from the players (apart from his own play), home games of any stakes are legal in Virginia.
 

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So I don't roll in the 20 grand buy-in crowd, but I have to wonder, were they masseuses or "masseuses :rolleyes:"...? Any wagers on that? Also, I'm surprised they got any of that money back. Civil asset forfeiture is the new hotness in local government.
 

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So I don't roll in the 20 grand buy-in crowd, but I have to wonder, were they masseuses or "masseuses :rolleyes:"...?

I'm sure they were just plain table based masseuses. All the underground games simply try to mimic casino experience in food, drink, waitress, rake and masseuses. They try to draw in the closer proximity players who don't wish to (or can't) drive to casino. I've seen people bring 15K to our simple 1/2 underground game (1K max buy) which is ridonkulous'ish. They (Virginia) probably had a decent 2/5 & 5/10 going.
 

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I don't really roll in the $500 buy-in crowd either, so I forgot a massage in the casino was a thing I was vaguely aware of. I guess the old maxim of only break one law at a time holds in this case.
 
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