Building a cash game set for 5/5/10 PLO....about 100k in chips need help with denoms

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Building a set for a middle/high-stakes game. 5/5 or 5/5/10 PLO with $25 straddles. Probably no more than 8 players at one time

Thinking:
200 - 5s
200 - 25s
200 - 100s
60 - 500s
20 - 1ks
5 - 5ks

Should I adjust more or less of those? That's 96k in chips. Any opinions wanted thanks!
 
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It all depends on what your bank needs are. If the most amount of money on the table at the end of the night is about $50,000-$60,000, then you're probably okay. I would consider an 800-chip cash set of 200x $5, 300x $25, 200x $100, and 100x $500. Bank $78500.

If you're really playing for these stakes, you should get totally customized chips to protect your game. I would recommend CPC and a good graphic designer.

(I could probably put together a set together like this for about $600-and-change, but I doubt you'd be interested in non-clay fare.)
 

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True we definitely considered custom sets, but you can't buy custom paulsons

We might just have to come up with a creative way to put a mark or rfid on the $500 chips

I think they definitely want some 1k chips also as opposed to all 500's, unless that's just not a super common thing and maybe i should talk them out of it....
 

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I’d only go with 1 rack of $5’s. You only need 10 per player for the blinds.

I’d want more $25’s & 100’s as they are your workhorse chips. Probably 100 more of each.

and fill out the rack of $500’s. They will get plenty of action.

and if the straddle is on a lot, stick with 2 racks of $25’s and get 4 racks of $100’s.
 
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OK thanks, well in a 5/5 game there is a good bit of straddling to $10, or raising to $15-20 sometimes. Bets of $30-45 happen often, so the 5's definitely get more use than just blind chips :)
 

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True we definitely considered custom sets, but you can't buy custom paulsons
On a related note to the OP, you can buy Paulsons and have custom labels made for them
There's vendors here that can do all the work for you
 

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you can't get custom paulsons, but yoou can relabel them, or get custom CPC
 

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Awesome well yeah I heard about relabeling but just assumed it was going to be a ton of work and expense having to Mill out all of the old labels and produce custom ones

Any idea how much the cost per chip is? Definitely something we would consider
 

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Awesome well yeah I heard about relabeling but just assumed it was going to be a ton of work and expense having to Mill out all of the old labels and produce custom ones

Any idea how much the cost per chip is? Definitely something we would consider
Send a PM to @Josh Kifer or visit his vendor pages. He can give you more info on milling and labeling prices
 

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Awesome well yeah I heard about relabeling but just assumed it was going to be a ton of work and expense having to Mill out all of the old labels and produce custom ones

Any idea how much the cost per chip is? Definitely something we would consider
It can definitely be done. Many of us have already.
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OK thanks, well in a 5/5 game there is a good bit of straddling to $10, or raising to $15-20 sometimes. Bets of $30-45 happen often, so the 5's definitely get more use than just blind chips :)
See, one would need experience playing 5/5 and 5/5/10 PLO to answer.
I am not that one.
I think relabeling paulsons is probably fine.
I do have some thoughts about chip security. Unless you're actually doing RFID chips (and I'm not sure how you would, but anything is possible) then you're kinda spinning your wheels. Because the truth is, anything can be copied. So yeah, I'd definitely make an effort with customs or semi-customs, but I wouldn't lose sleep over making something un-counterfeitable, because I don't think it's possible.
 

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Thanks, yeah I figure we should be able to put some kind of marking on the 500 and 1K chips, or might consider relabeling down the road but mainly right now I'm just considering with which denominations to get.

I think I might drop down to just a single barrel of the 1K chips considering that they cost $240 a barrel and we probably won't be using those quite often. They make a 5k plaque for this set as well, which if we have gone through 50k in purple and 1K chips at that point probably would be feasible
 

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Definitely would look at custom cpc at those stakes. Considering experience is that the 5s see some play, I'd stick with 200 x 5. My suggested breakdown:
200 x 5
400 x 25
300 x 100
100 x 500
91,000 bank could get a bit light in a really heavy 5/5/10/25 game, so maybe add some 1k and 5k plaques for pizzazz :p
 

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I usually play .05/.10 or .05/.05, which is admittedly plays way smaller than your game, but is conveniently conveniently divisible by 100. A few thoughts based on my experience (multiplying my stakes by 100 below). In short, it generally in agreement with @Alex Lundstrum ’s breakdown above.

100 5s seems to be too few, but 200 is a bit too many. There are pre-flop raises to 15 or 20 in 5/5, and 35-30 in 5/5/10, and if anyone limps, you’ll want them. I’d probably go with 200 5s. Better to have too many than too few.

25s will likely be your workhorse chip, Especially on the flop and occasionally on the turn. A raise to 40 in a 5/5/10 game and then 3 callers means there’s 160 in the pot, and flop bets tend to be in 25s. After that, anything up to about 500 is pretty management with 25s. In addition, 25s will likely be a key part of starting stacks if you’re only going with 200 5s. Buying in for 1000 will probably look something 36x25s (900), and 20x5s (100) for the initial few people, and then 4x100s(400), 20x25s (500), 20x5s (100). Would probably do at least 300-400 25s.

Turn and river bets will likely be in a combination of 25s and 100, leaning more towards 100s. In addition, you’ll likely handle your rebuys with mostly 100s + some 25s or 500s, depending on the rebuy amount and how many chips on the table. Would probably do 200-300 100s.

If you do 200x5s, 400x25s, and 300x100, then that puts you at 900 chips. If you’re looking to get a nice round 1000, then I’d probably consider something like 80x500s, and 20x1000s, with the 500s and 1k primarily coming into play for rebuys.

200/400/300/80/20 gets a bank of 101,000.

If you’re worried that’ll be a bit light, then a fun alternative could be to use $2k chips, rather $1k chips. You don’t see it in casinos, but it could make the 500s a bit more useful, and will give you an extra $20k in the bank. This depends on buy-in size and player preference, though. Not much use in them if players typically buy in for sub $2k.

If you want to use plaques, then I’d just do 100x500s, and then plaques for however many 1ks you want.

A few extra thoughts:
If you have a full time dealer that accepts tips, you’ll want some 1s for each player. Alternatively, plan to have lots of $1 bills and players can buy $10-20 of those when they buy in.

If you play 5/5/10, consider getting a few $10 chips to use as a rock, if your group is into that sort of thing. (See the Aria’s 5/5 game as an example. Seems to make for more action, and it’s an excuse to get an extra chip. Bonus points if you put it in a chip protector like they do in casinos

Whether you go custom or re-label, be sure to get a few extra of each chip. Don’t keep them anywhere near your playable set, but they’ll be nice to have if one breaks or gets lost.

hope this is somewhat useful!!
 

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True on all

Green might be what we need more than 2 racks of

Also I am said dealer that accepts tips, and they don't want ones on the table which I am fine with :p
 

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Paging the PLO pro @Anthony Martino!

Here in Tampa we have a 5/10 PLO game with a $25 rock. Buyins range from $500-$5,000

I don't play that one a ton, but there's also a private game within a local poker room that the players will change the buyins and rules as the game progresses, and some of those guys get stuck for 10K pretty early and start bumping things up, lots of straddles, flips for thousands each, etc.

So it's hard to say, without knowing your player pool and the buyin rules you use (and if they change), if 100K is enough or not for 8 handed play.
 

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I run a weekly PLO we use a lot of chips. Your going to Deff need more 5s then 2 racks. 5 racks with 4 standard. I’d start there. Please DM me I’d be glad to help. The great game of PLO needs me and I’ll gladly be there to help as
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the only sets I have dear to my heart are all PLO. I keep about 200k in chips avail per. Most important 80x1k 10x5k and 10x25k cuz u never know who walks in or goes deep. Then stack 5s and 25s and 100s depending on price and budget. On a budget ditch the 500s. They just get in the way. On a super budget. Ditch Some the 1k,5k,25k and buy the 500s. If your broke I’d suggest just go play hold em! =)
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Here in Tampa we have a 5/10 PLO game with a $25 rock. Buyins range from $500-$5,000

I don't play that one a ton, but there's also a private game within a local poker room that the players will change the buyins and rules as the game progresses, and some of those guys get stuck for 10K pretty early and start bumping things up, lots of straddles, flips for thousands each, etc.

So it's hard to say, without knowing your player pool and the buyin rules you use (and if they change), if 100K is enough or not for 8 handed play.
I want to play in this game!! I am a flip/banger expert, with a specialty in midnight baseball bangers.
 

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I run a weekly PLO we use a lot of chips. Your going to Deff need more 5s then 2 racks. 5 racks with 4 standard. I’d start there. Please DM me I’d be glad to help. The great game of PLO needs me and I’ll gladly be there to help as View attachment 582826View attachment 582826the only sets I have dear to my heart are all PLO. I keep about 200k in chips avail per. Most important 80x1k 10x5k and 10x25k cuz u never know who walks in or goes deep. Then stack 5s and 25s and 100s depending on price and budget. On a budget ditch the 500s. They just get in the way. On a super budget. Ditch Some the 1k,5k,25k and buy the 500s. If your broke I’d suggest just go play hold em! =)View attachment 582837
I want to play in this game too!!
 

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I run a weekly PLO we use a lot of chips. Your going to Deff need more 5s then 2 racks. 5 racks with 4 standard. I’d start there. Please DM me I’d be glad to help. The great game of PLO needs me and I’ll gladly be there to help as View attachment 582826View attachment 582826the only sets I have dear to my heart are all PLO. I keep about 200k in chips avail per. Most important 80x1k 10x5k and 10x25k cuz u never know who walks in or goes deep. Then stack 5s and 25s and 100s depending on price and budget. On a budget ditch the 500s. They just get in the way. On a super budget. Ditch Some the 1k,5k,25k and buy the 500s. If your broke I’d suggest just go play hold em! =)View attachment 582837
....... Live thousand dollar chips... And the table has a hole in it. This just does not compute.
 
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