Budget Tournament set (1 Viewer)

[philhut]

Do you guys know of a chart or something like that laying out different starting stacks based on base chip denom? I know this is highly opinionated so maybe it doesn't exist (or maybe some people have their own opinionated ones haha). I've searched around threads and found bits and pieces. Also let's pretend this is for trying to get people somewhat interested very interested in playing (fun for the average enthusiast or even someone who doesn't know that a flush is better than a straight).

I'm not necessarily looking for the "perfect tournament stack" but instead solid options to choose from to make sure I get the right chips and can potentially switch up what chips are in play.

I found this for T25 and T100 but was curious for others (T5, T1, etc.): https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/basic-tournament-set-breakdowns-for-beginners-updated.49446/

https://docs.google.com/presentatio...CxPxCk4t2iMOW68c94QQaEgquQ/present?slide=id.p

this is the best summary on the site

 

[GetUrShineBox]

These guys are giving you the best advice you can get!
I think you should lean towards a T25 or T100 set up because that is more popular throughout tournament structures in casino's and it allows you to play with large denominations that most would never play with in real life. I like leaving the $1 and $5 chips to cash games.
You should come up with a structure first and then we can help with the rest

All the things to consider:
- How many players will you play with normally and what would be the max number of players you would want your set to accommodate?
- Will there be rebuys? If so how many you would you expect? Only a few or is your group super aggressive and will build a pot?
- Will there be add ons? This also grows the pot and brings more chips into play.
- What would you like your starting stacks to be? 10k, 20k, 25k, 50k?

Most home game tournaments I play in will have rebuys for the first 90 minutes so that people don't bust out with KK vs AA in the first 5 minutes and have nothing to do for the remainder of the night.
For example:
If the max players you will have is 10 with 20k start stacks and no rebuys or add ons then the most you will ever have on the table is $200,000.
So with a 12/12/5/6/2 breakdown you only need to color up $3000 worth of 25's, $12,000 worth of 100's, $25,000 worth of 500's so all you need are an extra 15 - 1k's and 5 - 5k chips to color up. Then your final 2-3 guys are left with 75 - 1k's and 25 - 5k's in play at the end of the tourney. For this tournament structure all you need are about 400 chips - 120/120/50/75/25 (always get extras in case of damage/lost/stolen)

If you're going to host more people and/or have rebuys and add ons then we need to add chips to the set in the most cost effective way.

 

[jrs146]

These guys are giving you the best advice you can get!
I think you should lean towards a T25 or T100 set up because that is more popular throughout tournament structures in casino's and it allows you to play with large denominations that most would never play with in real life. I like leaving the $1 and $5 chips to cash games.
You should come up with a structure first and then we can help with the rest

All the things to consider:
- How many players will you play with normally and what would be the max number of players you would want your set to accommodate?
- Will there be rebuys? If so how many you would you expect? Only a few or is your group super aggressive and will build a pot?
- Will there be add ons? This also grows the pot and brings more chips into play.
- What would you like your starting stacks to be? 10k, 20k, 25k, 50k?

Most home game tournaments I play in will have rebuys for the first 90 minutes so that people don't bust out with KK vs AA in the first 5 minutes and have nothing to do for the remainder of the night.
For example:
If the max players you will have is 10 with 20k start stacks and no rebuys or add ons then the most you will ever have on the table is $200,000.
So with a 12/12/5/6/2 breakdown you only need to color up $3000 worth of 25's, $12,000 worth of 100's, $25,000 worth of 500's so all you need are an extra 15 - 1k's and 5 - 5k chips to color up. Then your final 2-3 guys are left with 75 - 1k's and 25 - 5k's in play at the end of the tourney. For this tournament structure all you need are about 400 chips - 120/120/50/75/25 (always get extras in case of damage/lost/stolen)

If you're going to host more people and/or have rebuys and add ons then we need to add chips to the set in the most cost effective way.

In this example how did you decide on 15 1K's and 5 5K's for the color up? I guess that's where I'm still not 100% on.

 

[allforcharity]

In this example how did you decide on 15 1K's and 5 5K's for the color up? I guess that's where I'm still not 100% on.

Sometimes it's arbitrary. Sometimes it's restricted by cost and availability. Sometimes it's just about getting special denoms in play (like plaques). Just go with the flow.

 

[GetUrShineBox]

In this example how did you decide on 15 1K's and 5 5K's for the color up? I guess that's where I'm still not 100% on.

The 25's, 100's, and 500's add up to $40,000 so you can do any combo of 1k's and 5k's you want that add up to $40k.
40 - 1k's
35 - 1k's and 1 5k
30 - 1k's and 2 5k's
or just 8 - 5k's

I prefer more chips on the table so I'd go more 1k's but that's just my preference.

 

[BGinGA]

A lot of optimum color-up procedure is based on starting stack size and composition, along with the tournament field size. For example, most single-table T25-base events will end before the T1000 chips are no longer required; some may not even reach the T500 removal point. Even in many multi-table events, very few (if any) T25K chips are needed.

The key to efficiency is to plan stack sizes and color-ups so that there is always an ample number of workhorse chips in play (but not 'too' many, either), along with a sufficient number of larger denomination chips. This will speed up play, and make constructing bets and restacking won pots quicker and easier.

 

[jrs146]

A lot of optimum color-up procedure is based on starting stack size and composition, along with the tournament field size. For example, most single-table T25-base events will end before the T1000 chips are no longer required; some may not even reach the T500 removal point. Even in many multi-table events, very few (if any) T25K chips are needed.

The key to efficiency is to plan stack sizes and color-ups so that there is always an ample number of workhorse chips in play (but not 'too' many, either), along with a sufficient number of larger denomination chips. This will speed up play, and make constructing bets and restacking won pots quicker and easier.

Good advice as always. Thank you!

 

[zshearin]

These guys are giving you the best advice you can get!
I think you should lean towards a T25 or T100 set up because that is more popular throughout tournament structures in casino's and it allows you to play with large denominations that most would never play with in real life. I like leaving the $1 and $5 chips to cash games.
You should come up with a structure first and then we can help with the rest

All the things to consider:
- How many players will you play with normally and what would be the max number of players you would want your set to accommodate?
- Will there be rebuys? If so how many you would you expect? Only a few or is your group super aggressive and will build a pot?
- Will there be add ons? This also grows the pot and brings more chips into play.
- What would you like your starting stacks to be? 10k, 20k, 25k, 50k?

Most home game tournaments I play in will have rebuys for the first 90 minutes so that people don't bust out with KK vs AA in the first 5 minutes and have nothing to do for the remainder of the night.
For example:
If the max players you will have is 10 with 20k start stacks and no rebuys or add ons then the most you will ever have on the table is $200,000.
So with a 12/12/5/6/2 breakdown you only need to color up $3000 worth of 25's, $12,000 worth of 100's, $25,000 worth of 500's so all you need are an extra 15 - 1k's and 5 - 5k chips to color up. Then your final 2-3 guys are left with 75 - 1k's and 25 - 5k's in play at the end of the tourney. For this tournament structure all you need are about 400 chips - 120/120/50/75/25 (always get extras in case of damage/lost/stolen)

If you're going to host more people and/or have rebuys and add ons then we need to add chips to the set in the most cost effective way.

I agree - lots of great advice and I really appreciate it!

Yeah I'm definitely gonna buy with T25 tourneys in mind, I just have a set with a $5 chip in it that I really like and I want to justify buying and potentially playing with it haha

Also thank you for all this info and the questions! I still have to think through them and figure out what exactly I want to do. I think I'm gonna go with @BGinGA 's advice way back about stack size for a T25 20k starting stack tourney.

 

[zshearin]

https://docs.google.com/presentatio...CxPxCk4t2iMOW68c94QQaEgquQ/present?slide=id.p

this is the best summary on the site

This is exactly what I was looking for - thank you!!

 

[zshearin]

Update - instead of getting the $5 chip and having a T5 tournament every now and then, I'm planning on using its design and color for the bounty chip that I saw here: https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/tiki-kings-plaques-dealer-buttons-and-bounties.61733/