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I am looking at possibly purchasing a set from Sun-Fly Casino Chips. On their website (apollonchips.com) I see that they have three different types: Polyclay, Polychrom, and polyinno. Which one is the best quality?

Has anyone had these and would have a good comparison to standard poker chips and Paulsons?

Thank you!
 
Sun-Fly chips are either hybrid (smooth ceramic with a label [Polyinno]), full-face printed artwork on ceramic (textured [Polychrom]), or some kind of franken clay/ceramic composite (Polyclay).

Don't compare the first two to Paulsons; they are VERY DIFFERENT. And as for quality, it depends on what you are comparing it to. I've personally only handled Polyinno and Polychrom, and I have to say that I really like their Polyinno chips. As for Polychrom, I believe I would rather go to a vender like BRPro Poker and get full-face dye sub artwork chips from them at a fraction of the cost.

You're looking at 3 completely different chip manufacturing technologies from a single source (SunFly) and they are quite distinct. I would get samples before you pull the trigger.

If it helps, I can send you a few Polyinno chips to give you an idea of what they feel like. Just send me a PM.

Full disclosure:
  • I love Paulson chips; I have about 6000
  • I still have Sun-Fly chips in my collection; and if there is ever another group-buy, I might get more
  • I would most likely not get their Polychrom chips since I am head-over-heals in love with most of BRPro's offerings
 
The things that makes chip A better than chip B and chip C is all personal preference. The only way for you to get a good answer to this question is to order samples and see for yourself.

Look, I get it. You want something great. You don't want to waste time or money on something that isn't great. I get it. The only problem with this is that you are a unique individual. So am I. So is everyone else. The answers one person will give you will undoubtedly be refuted by another, and both people will have valid reasons for their answer given. In all reality, only you knows what chip works for you. Slow down, get samples, and make a choice that is good for you.
 
Sun-Fly chips are either hybrid (smooth ceramic with a label [Polyinno]), full-face printed artwork on ceramic (textured [Polychrom]), or some kind of franken clay/ceramic composite (Polyclay).

Don't compare the first two to Paulsons; they are VERY DIFFERENT. And as for quality, it depends on what you are comparing it to. I've personally only handled Polyinno and Polychrom, and I have to say that I really like their Polyinno chips. As for Polychrom, I believe I would rather go to a vender like BRPro Poker and get full-face dye sub artwork chips from them at a fraction of the cost.

You're looking at 3 completely different chip manufacturing technologies from a single source (SunFly) and they are quite distinct. I would get samples before you pull the trigger.

If it helps, I can send you a few Polyinno chips to give you an idea of what they feel like. Just send me a PM.

Full disclosure:
  • I love Paulson chips; I have about 6000
  • I still have Sun-Fly chips in my collection; and if there is ever another group-buy, I might get more
  • I would most likely not get their Polychrom chips since I am head-over-heals in love with most of BRPro's offerings
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The things that makes chip A better than chip B and chip C is all personal preference. The only way for you to get a good answer to this question is to order samples and see for yourself.

Look, I get it. You want something great. You don't want to waste time or money on something that isn't great. I get it. The only problem with this is that you are a unique individual. So am I. So is everyone else. The answers one person will give you will undoubtedly be refuted by another, and both people will have valid reasons for their answer given. In all reality, only you knows what chip works for you. Slow down, get samples, and make a choice that is good for you.
Thank you for the feedback and insight! I have a lot of samples already. I just have not had a chance to try for the Sun-Fly ones. I know everyone is different I was looking for more of the difference between the three types Sun-Fly makes for people who have handled it.
 
Sun-Fly chips are either hybrid (smooth ceramic with a label [Polyinno]), full-face printed artwork on ceramic (textured [Polychrom]), or some kind of franken clay/ceramic composite (Polyclay).

Don't compare the first two to Paulsons; they are VERY DIFFERENT. And as for quality, it depends on what you are comparing it to. I've personally only handled Polyinno and Polychrom, and I have to say that I really like their Polyinno chips. As for Polychrom, I believe I would rather go to a vender like BRPro Poker and get full-face dye sub artwork chips from them at a fraction of the cost.

You're looking at 3 completely different chip manufacturing technologies from a single source (SunFly) and they are quite distinct. I would get samples before you pull the trigger.

If it helps, I can send you a few Polyinno chips to give you an idea of what they feel like. Just send me a PM.

Full disclosure:
  • I love Paulson chips; I have about 6000
  • I still have Sun-Fly chips in my collection; and if there is ever another group-buy, I might get more
  • I would most likely not get their Polychrom chips since I am head-over-heals in love with most of BRPro's offerings
This is exactly the answer I was looking for. I have a bunch of samples including Paulsons but haven’t had a chance to get my hands on the Polyinno (that is the option I was drawn to most).
As far as the samples that would be awesome! I will PM you.

My dream set is the Aurora Star hot stamp tournament set and for now that is what it will stay, a dream haha. The prices for those are outrageous.
What kind of Paulsons do you have?
 
I think CPC hot stamp cash set is a way to go. If not I just pay Abiatti....
The problem with Europe is that it's hard to get that ultrasonic cleaning machines. Ceramics are so much convenient...
Maybe Bud Jones?
 
Most of people will tell you to get samples... Lots of samples
Yes I have lots of samples I just haven’t been able to get my hands on the Sun-Fly options. I’m in the US and they take forever to respond. I more of wanted to hear someone’s feedback who has held them.
 
This is exactly the answer I was looking for. I have a bunch of samples including Paulsons but haven’t had a chance to get my hands on the Polyinno (that is the option I was drawn to most).
As far as the samples that would be awesome! I will PM you.

My dream set is the Aurora Star hot stamp tournament set and for now that is what it will stay, a dream haha. The prices for those are outrageous.
What kind of Paulsons do you have?
Yup, I'll shoot you out a small sample stack for you to try out.

Fantasy chips are always going for a premium. Aurora/Express/Pacific... They're all gonna cost a pretty penny.

Personally, I've got most Paulsons known to man. RHC (jack/terrible/Santa Ysabel/HSI,etc), THC (leaded, shaped inlay like Outpost, solids like flamingo, etc), oversized RHC (aces/circa,), IHC 43mm, diamond mild, WTHC mold, house mold, etc.

It's like I said, I've got a bunch of chips and I still have room in my collection for some sunfly polyinos.

There are also other premium brands of ceramic chips out there. Such as Matsui, B&G, Bud Jones and Abiatti.

At the end of the day you really have to sit back and ask yourself what you want.
  • Do you want a set from a real casino? That can include clay Paulsons, and ceramics from Matsui or Bud Jones
  • Do you want fully customizable full face artwork? In that case you would be looking for SunFly or BrPro.
  • Do you want your own fully custom set of clay chips... Then you're looking at CPC.
The possibilities are really endless. The only thing that limits you is your budget.
 
just for clarity, Sunfly Polyclay chips are not clay at all. They are fully ceramic chips that have a shaped mold made to replicate traditional clay chips, with a recessed ring around the “inlay” area (not actually an inlay), and recessed shapes around the outside, either cards or diamonds.

That said, any product from Sunfly is top notch. It’s hard to go wrong.
 
just for clarity, Sunfly Polyclay chips are not clay at all.
I had thought I had read once that they actually use a different chemical composition for the polyclay ones. So that the actual feel of them is a little bit softer and more similar to clay. Obviously, they're not clay, but I don't think they were just their standard ceramic with a recessed inlay area.
 
I had thought I had read once that they actually use a different chemical composition for the polyclay ones. So that the actual feel of them is a little bit softer and more similar to clay. Obviously, they're not clay, but I don't think they were just their standard ceramic with a recessed inlay area.
Interesting. If you find the info, please share it. I haven’t handled the Sunfly polyclays yet.
 
Interesting. If you find the info, please share it. I haven’t handled the Sunfly polyclays yet.
Yeah, neither have I. I've always been interested in it but it never seems to come up here in sales. Obviously shipping from them is outrageous unless you're doing it as part of the group buy.

Let me see if I can find it......
 
Ok, here's something along the polyclay lines: https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/polyclay-sunfly-durability.48927/post-914462

The review states that the material does seem different than their standard ceramic, but is still at the end of the day ceramic. So perhaps it's very similar to their normal ceramic, but it does have a different feel, sound, and breaking point so it must be made of a different composition.
 
Yes I have lots of samples I just haven’t been able to get my hands on the Sun-Fly options. I’m in the US and they take forever to respond. I more of wanted to hear someone’s feedback who has held them.

Put up a wanted ad for Sun-Fly samples. I know people here at PCF have some.
 
Sun-Fly has been amazing to work with. If you're interested in samples/a shuffle stack of they hybrids, send me a buck a piece and they're yours. PM me.

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just for clarity, Sunfly Polyclay chips are not clay at all. They are fully ceramic chips that have a shaped mold made to replicate traditional clay chips, with a recessed ring around the “inlay” area (not actually an inlay), and recessed shapes around the outside, either cards or diamonds.
A better term for the ring and molded shapes is "debossed" rather than "recessed". It's a mostly pointless technicality, but I prefer it so as to not cause any confusion regarding the center area, which we often refer to as a recess.

Paulson chips have a recessed center which contains an inlay, and have debossed hats-and-canes around the rim. China clays have a recessed center which contains an adhesive decal (not an inlay; it's adhered on top of the recessed surface rather than inlaid into and flush with the recessed surface as with Paulsons) and have various debossed designs around the rim. PolyClays, however, have a non-recessed center, with the center design (emulating an inlay) printed directly onto the surface of the center of the chip, and have a debossed ring around the center and debossed shapes around the rim.

PolyInnos have a recessed center which takes an adhesive decal, and have no debossing. It's the combination of litho-printed adhesive decal in a recess (like a china clay) plus dye-sublimation printed rim and rolling edge (like a ceramic) that makes these hybrids.

PolyChrom are typical ceramic chips - flat everywhere, no recess, no debossed designs, dye-sublimation printing on the entire face and rolling edge.

(I know everyone knows this already; this is for the benefit of the new members.)
 
Thank you @CrazyEddie for correcting many of the erroneous claims of others in this thread. Also notewothy to point out that ALL of Sun-Fly's chips are made of the same poylmer material -- it is the different mold designs (and sizes) of each chip line that create the different feel, sound, and play characteristics. The base material is the same.

Also want to point out that Matsui, Abiatti, Bud Jones, and (most) B&G chips are high-end plastic chips, and are NOT ceramics. Totally unlike any Sun-Fly or Paulson product, they share more in common material- and design-wise with slugged plastics from China than anything else. Better materials, closer manufacturing tolerances, higher quality controls, post-molding machining and finishing processes, and security features set them apart in both final product quality and cost.

Not sure where @BearMetal is getting his info, but it certainly isn't accurate.
 
Not sure where @BearMetal is getting his info, but it certainly isn't accurate.
It was a post from a while back but I can't find it. Actually, maybe it was an email from Sun-Fly. But I know I had read that the formula for polyclay was different. But I can't find it now, so could be remembering wrong.

But their own website says it's a special feel.
 
Agreed, it is a different feel..... which can be attributed to the debossing. Mold markings can make a huge difference.
 
It's probobly the polyspectra line you are thinking of. Never handled them, but it says they mix color pigment into the chip itself, so atleast some diffrence.
"
SUN-FLY offers 12 standard colors on POLYSPECTRA chips which are originally mixed into the chip body material. You may make a selection on the colors and let us know the color code for reference."

https://www.sunflycasinoequipment.com/polyspectra-chips
 
Ive been on the fence on the Polyinnos "ascona" for a short while now, they look really nice, the only thing thats holding me back is the color of the 100 chip, i like the traditional colors, so to me a 100 should be black
 
Sun-Fly chips are either hybrid (smooth ceramic with a label [Polyinno]), full-face printed artwork on ceramic (textured [Polychrom]), or some kind of franken clay/ceramic composite (Polyclay).

Don't compare the first two to Paulsons; they are VERY DIFFERENT. And as for quality, it depends on what you are comparing it to. I've personally only handled Polyinno and Polychrom, and I have to say that I really like their Polyinno chips. As for Polychrom, I believe I would rather go to a vender like BRPro Poker and get full-face dye sub artwork chips from them at a fraction of the cost.

You're looking at 3 completely different chip manufacturing technologies from a single source (SunFly) and they are quite distinct. I would get samples before you pull the trigger.

If it helps, I can send you a few Polyinno chips to give you an idea of what they feel like. Just send me a PM.

Full disclosure:
  • I love Paulson chips; I have about 6000
  • I still have Sun-Fly chips in my collection; and if there is ever another group-buy, I might get more
  • I would most likely not get their Polychrom chips since I am head-over-heals in love with most of BRPro's offerings

Hello. I was just wondering what you meant by. . .

"As for Polychrom, I believe I would rather go to a vender like BR Pro Poker and get full-face dye sub artwork chips from them at a fraction of the cost."

Because I have ordered Poker Chips from both BR Pro Poker And Sun-Fly Casino Equipment. And this is the price comparison on their Poker Chips. Also, Sun-Fly actually printed what I sent them to print on this Axis & Allies Poker Chip. Whereas, as you can see for yourself, BR Pro Poker burnt black the hell out of all of the leaves and flowers. When someone compares companies, but does not show proof, that person is not stating the facts. I can tell you much much more about the differences in these two companies and Sun-Fly will come out on top every time. That is why I have purchased over 7,000 Poker Chips from them and 0 from BR Pro Poker/Nevada Jacks/ABC Gifts and Awards/CombatBet . . . .
 

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Hello. I was just wondering what you meant by. . .

"As for Polychrom, I believe I would rather go to a vender like BR Pro Poker and get full-face dye sub artwork chips from them at a fraction of the cost."

Because I have ordered Poker Chips from both BR Pro Poker And Sun-Fly Casino Equipment. And this is the price comparison on their Poker Chips. Also, Sun-Fly actually printed what I sent them to print on this Axis & Allies Poker Chip. Whereas, as you can see for yourself, BR Pro Poker burnt black the hell out of all of the leaves and flowers. When someone compares companies, but does not show proof, that person is not stating the facts. I can tell you much much more about the differences in these two companies and Sun-Fly will come out on top every time. That is why I have purchased over 7,000 Poker Chips from them and 0 from BR Pro Poker/Nevada Jacks/ABC Gifts and Awards/CombatBet . . . .
Thanks for that comparison! One thing to mention is that although the per chip prices are comparable between the two, sunfly shipping throws it way off.

Certainly your BR pro chips are not acceptable and I don't know what happened there. But what I can tell you is that other BR pro chips that I've received have been absolutely stunning.

So when I go off of the actual chips from BR pro that I have received coupled with their per chip price and very reasonable shipping, it's still a better deal.

With that said, I reiterate that those chips from BR pro that you received are not acceptable. When you contacted them about the printing issues what did they say? Printing issues what did they say?
 

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