Are these guys colluding? (1 Viewer)

[Anthony Martino]

Local poker room that hosts a very crazy 1/2 PLO game with a mandatory $5 button straddle (and permits restraddles)

A lot of these guys will buyin 200-400 and just try to get it in preflop and gamble it up

Each dealer change most of them do a $100 flip

During one of the flips a guy won and didn't collect from one other guy across the table. They revealed they were partners in the flips

I noticed a few hands where one of them with $200 would limp, then the other with a stack over 1k would make a juicer raise to $25, get a bunch of callers, then the guy with 200 would repot and his partner would then repot to isolate

Happened a couple times and given they revealed they were partners in flips it didn't seem kosher to me

However, these guys play such garbage hands and love to just gamble it up maybe I'm wrong

 

[gopherblue]

They’re colluding, but that they’re also terrible at it (both the collusion and the pokerz) doesn’t excuse it.

If they are playing as you’ve said, they are cheating, and while they may be terrible, the -EV will eventually bite you in the ass.

 

[Frogzilla]

Having some sort of flip arrangement between regs might not necessarily imply colluding in the real poker.

I’m “meh” on this one especially if they are both playing trash

 

[Rhodeman77]

Definitely colluding. The hands don’t matter in this play!

They are trapping a lot of dead money in the middle with anyone that calls the $25 and folds to the $200 raise and even more if someone calls the $200 but folds to the $1k jam!!!

And even when they get called they are playing 2 hands against 1! Even the best PLO hand is only 35-45% equity against 2 random hands.

At the end of the night the meet back up and chop the money.

I’d be bringing this play to the floors attention and the other players in the game.

 

[yone]

What were the they re-raising with? If the winning hand was 8 9 suited, yeah might be suspect.

edit: sorry didn’t realize it was Omaha.

 

[Frogzilla]

And even when they get called they are playing 2 hands against 1! Even the best PLO hand is only 35-45% equity against 2 random hands.

There is no way it’s only 35%. A random hand is 33% against two random.

And the 2 on 1 doesn’t offer any advantage because they are paying you 2-to-1. If this is a scheme (or just a fishy tendency to isolate light) you can underfold and print.

 

[Josh Kifer]

Yup. And they each deserve a swift kick in the Jimmy.

 

[moose]

Collusion

 

[FiveThous]

Check the book