Are Paulsons overrated? (2 Viewers)

Marius L said:
While historically over the last few years, a small warning right here. What do they say... Historic performance is not a guarantee of future performance.

When stocks come down from all time highs and things cool down in the financial market there might also be time for a correction in chip prices. (Maybe of course, but just keep it in mind)
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you shouldn’t expect recent price changes to be a predictor of future price changes, but to expect it to hold its value is not unreasonable if you get it for fair prices. Same can be said if you buy used China clays on the forum though. You lose when you felt new chips and you lose when you pay retail premiums.

It’s like high end watches in that respect. Something that depreciates very slowly, where if you’re familiar with the markets enough you can predict price movement.
 
Stufflymcstuff said:
986kryou shouldn’t expect recent price changes to be a predictor of future price changes, but to expect it to hold its value is not unreasonable if you get it for fair prices. Same can be said if you buy used China clays on the forum though. You lose when you felt new chips and you lose when you pay retail premiums.

It’s like high end watches in that respect. Something that depreciates very slowly, where if you’re familiar with the markets enough you can predict price movement.
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For people new to the chip market it is good to know that prices here are at all time highs as well. And even within the paulson sphere there are big differences in what chips are in demand and what chips not so much. Its just a friendly reminder that's all.
 
It’s high overall but not that high on the low end.

Search function can filter for older dates.

Thoroughly used rhc sets at about $1/chip was common even 5 years ago. The ones below are closer to majestic star condition than jacks.

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/grand-vic-primary-cash-set-x-2.11455/


It looks like prices have gone to the moon because we see a lot of old chips pop up that are in low supply which means prices go up for whoever wants that specific Chip.
 
BPTDirector said:
I used to think I had to have a set of Paulsons because they were what was used in the majority of casinos, therefore if I wanted that experience at my game that’s what was needed. 15 years later, having bought and sold many many sets of chips both Paulson and all other brands I have 7 keeper chips sets I’ll never get rid of and none are Paulson. And all my players love my sets even though some of them have Paulson sets, that they may have purchased from me. So I say it’s definitely a personal choice, are Paulson chips nice, yes, are they worth what everyone seems to be so willing to pay these days? Hell no. Am I a chip collector, I’d like to think so, but I’m not a fool that will overpay. My .02.
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Interested to know what your keeper sets are?
 
BPTDirector said:
I used to think I had to have a set of Paulsons because they were what was used in the majority of casinos, therefore if I wanted that experience at my game that’s what was needed. 15 years later, having bought and sold many many sets of chips both Paulson and all other brands I have 7 keeper chips sets I’ll never get rid of and none are Paulson. And all my players love my sets even though some of them have Paulson sets, that they may have purchased from me. So I say it’s definitely a personal choice, are Paulson chips nice, yes, are they worth what everyone seems to be so willing to pay these days? Hell no. Am I a chip collector, I’d like to think so, but I’m not a fool that will overpay. My .02.
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I like a lot of these other sets too and i dont think anyone should overpay for any chip but paulson seem to hold value and probably always maintain a higher resale value as good or better than other brands both due to name recognition and for quality. But it is fun to see others giving them some closer competition. I know and like those horse head mold and a-mold and all those chips too because quality is very solid there too but i play a lot and bump high denoms occasionally when i stand up or reach or whatever and for some reason my paulson chips always seem to stretch and bend with me versus tumbling into a big pile from a little “bump” and thats the true reason i love this brand over others. They play really nice and they stack and “hold” really nice. Again i like others too but i prefer these functionality wise above all again except maybe those other molds like the horsehead and a mold and im newer to this group and not as in tune with everything but i have been in plenty of games with china clays (they stack decent and i dont mind playing with them but they are always off color and sizes of chips are often off too (milanos). Ceramics play ok but dont love any of them i have played with. I liked playing with the horsehead mold chips and i think i could fall in love with chips coming from that manufacturer too. But i do play a lot and probably in bigger games than many on here and when you have to put a high denom chip on top of your stack and up front for everyone to see the most important thing in that situation is a chip that stacks and “holds”. The less chance you have at knocking over your stacks the less chance you have of losing chips into someone elses stack or into a currently being played pot. I am not always in games with the highest integrity players so i always appreciate when a paulson chip is in that kind of a game. If you are speaking solely as a collector thos tiki kings and many others look really cool and i would love to have them for coolness factor or for show but for actual play i like the paulsons.
 

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upNdown said:
I don’t think that’s right. I guess we’d have to ask a casino, but I’m pretty sure the reason most American casinos use Paulsons is for security.
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Lol probably most use them because their accounting division set up a process 30 years ago that makes it easy to reorder without bids and qualifying vendors and a bunch of other crap. It’s easier to just push the button with a vendor that is established in your system than it is to set up a new vendor. I think momentum is why casinos use Paulsons.
 
I’m for anyone buying what makes them happy at any price they think is fair. Just about any chip that the players can use without slowing the game down is fine with me. It’s better when the chips facilitate the game.

However, the feel of leaded TH&C is the feel of old timey gambling to me. Gambling when you could get real single & double deck blackjack, craps for $5 stakes and 100 times odds. So theres a bit of reminisce when you get to play with them.

I have some means, but the idea of paying $10,000 for a thousand Chip set is a tough sell for me. Buy stuff you want, making it an investment has some risk. Some people are feeling wealthy because the stock market, and after 35 years in that industry, I can tell you the feeling will dissipate at some point and chips won’t be as liquid as they are now. Also, heaven forbid that Paulson (for whatever reason) decides to sell to us again…even at 2-3x the regular price. We’d all pay it, and it would destroy the value of your investment you made in the chips at multiples of that price.
 
HaRDHouSeiNC said:
The issue with CPC And people spending $300 a rack then waiting nine months like ok cool story bro. I’ll never order CPC chips. I’d do China clay or cards mold ceramics first.
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ktran said:
Nothing to be sorry about. Someone paying $300/rack for CPC is insane.
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Edit: I used to feel the exact same way
 
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All Paulsons except leaded THC are overrated. Leaded textured inlaid RHC, however, are underrated, like the PCA $1 chips. Leaded THC are held in proper esteem.
 
Dice chip are the most underrated. Fact.
Leaded shaped inlay thc is the most overrated. Fact.

If want overpriced trinkets go collect faberge eggs or fine China. Stop driving up the prices so the rest of us can buy the good stuff. :mad:
 
Marius L said:
While historically over the last few years this is correct, but a small warning right here. What do they say... Historic performance is not a guarantee of future performance.

When stocks come down from all time highs and things cool down in the financial market there might also be time for a correction in chip prices. (Maybe of course, but just keep it in mind)
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I couldn’t agree more and it’s been said many times before. Buy the chips because you like them and want them. If buying with the idea of it being an investment - it might work in your favor, then again it might not.

That said, for the most part - Paulson Leaded THC’s and leaded TRK’s tend to hold their value and tend to increase over time as those specific chips land in keeper sets.

As movement of chips slows in general, prices trend up due to scarcity. As prices rise, counter to standard market theory, collectors may be less inclined to sell for fear of selling below the peak, or sellers remorse (can’t afford to buy them back) if I change my mind.
 
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Trayus said:
This is a good point. I'm more looking for a set for my home games rather than as a collector. I'm not too versed on what qualifies as a "good" chip. Just want something that's looks good and feels nice and isn't going to start chipping away after a couple months.
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Ceramics are for you then. You can get standard off the rack ceramics that are great, or you can get a custom set that you either design or commission for a personal touch. They will last multiple lifetimes.
 
Nah, paulsons are not over rated. I read what you wrote, the used jacks didn’t knock your socks off, I get it.

I remember feeling that way about the used roadhouse set I bought, they were just a bit too used for me to enjoy.

I already had some minty Roulette molds, and I loved them, but when the used roadhouse set came they felt less substantial, less chalky, I didn’t like them so I sold them pretty quick.

I started collecting THC solids, I tried to get near mint. Seems like the THC chips hold the condition better. I was happy.

Then I bought a chalky mint set of RHC, I was happy with that.

Moral of the story, I like my paulsons in good condition. Seems like I have sold off almost everything that’s not in GREAT Condition.

Good luck!
 
As much as I wanna troll the living hell out of this....

Nothing is overrated. Nothing is underrated. Every single person has a different opinion and love for this hobby, from CIC to Leaded to those little interlocking crappy chips we all had. There is a custom dice chip set for Fs sake.

In the end, let's just hope everyone finds a few gems they love forever. If it's shit, but it makes them happy, then the goal was reached.

We get stuck here with bigger opinions on such a artistic thing as chips. We sometimes forget that art is art. It'll be subjective. And if it's not your cup of tea, then full someone else's cup. Chips are also drastically different from set to set. I hate RHCs and the Crystal Park set I have will prob never be sold.

You might not click with the Jacks, but just because ya might dislike a flavor of ice cream, it doesn't mean you should hate all the ice cream.... try a different flavor.... Mold.... Maker.... Type....

Try a old flavor again sometimes. Sometimes it's better then second time around.
 
Josh Kifer said:
As much as I wanna troll the living hell out of this....

Nothing is overrated. Nothing is underrated. Every single person has a different opinion and love for this hobby, from CIC to Leaded to those little interlocking crappy chips we all had. There is a custom dice chip set for Fs sake.

In the end, let's just hope everyone finds a few gems they love forever. If it's shit, but it makes them happy, then the goal was reached.

We get stuck here with bigger opinions on such a artistic thing as chips. We sometimes forget that art is art. It'll be subjective. And if it's not your cup of tea, then full someone else's cup. Chips are also drastically different from set to set. I hate RHCs and the Crystal Park set I have will prob never be sold.

You might not click with the Jacks, but just because ya might dislike a flavor of ice cream, it doesn't mean you should hate all the ice cream.... try a different flavor.... Mold.... Maker.... Type....

Try a old flavor again sometimes. Sometimes it's better then second time around.
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Love it when you Troll Captain! ;)
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Do I think a GOAT 600 chip costing $5,000 is worth the money? No

Do I want to own the GOAT 600 chip if I had the spare money to spend? Yes

Am I going to have problems if I buy the chips and when my Wife find out? YES

:cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:
 
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Trayus said:
This is a good point. I'm more looking for a set for my home games rather than as a collector. I'm not too versed on what qualifies as a "good" chip. Just want something that's looks good and feels nice and isn't going to start chipping away after a couple months.
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Paulsons will hold and gain in value in most cases. If you buy one barrell of five colors no one actually uses in a poker game its tough. Paulsons are the best chip for any game. The rubiks cube was overrated. Blockbuster video was overrated. AOL was overrated. There is zero evidence that Paulson chips are overrated and i have some unused paulson pharos chips to prove it. If at some point demand dwindles or we stop using poker chips due to technology making poker chips overall obsolete then you can say paulsons are overrated but this poker chip usually holds its value or even gains in value wheras all of these other sets (not all but most) will simply lose value. China clay are cheap and offsized with stickers falling off I definitely dont see this chip ever gaining iin value i think in most cases they will lose value. Ceramics are value losers and a lot of them look very bad and worn out pretty quickly. Paulsons are an investment that will hold or gain in worth and china clay and ceramics will most likely lose value. Not overrated - not at this point in time anyway. You can be price gauged and may not recover the investment but thats just poor buying practice. For a big game i think you should try to have the best chip.
 
si3v3 said:
Paulsons will hold and gain in value in most cases. If you buy one barrell of five colors no one actually uses in a poker game its tough. Paulsons are the best chip for any game. The rubiks cube was overrated. Blockbuster video was overrated. AOL was overrated. There is zero evidence that Paulson chips are overrated and i have some unused paulson pharos chips to prove it. If at some point demand dwindles or we stop using poker chips due to technology making poker chips overall obsolete then you can say paulsons are overrated but this poker chip usually holds its value or even gains in value wheras all of these other sets (not all but most) will simply lose value. China clay are cheap and offsized with stickers falling off I definitely dont see this chip ever gaining iin value i think in most cases they will lose value. Ceramics are value losers and a lot of them look very bad and worn out pretty quickly. Paulsons are an investment that will hold or gain in worth and china clay and ceramics will most likely lose value. Not overrated - not at this point in time anyway. You can be price gauged and may not recover the investment but thats just poor buying practice. For a big game i think you should try to have the best chip.
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What about a Blockbuster Manager of the Year award?.....

(One of my favorite threads ever.... Aquaman!

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/thre...1996-value-appraisal.23889/page-3#post-450063)
 
si3v3 said:
Paulsons will hold and gain in value in most cases. If you buy one barrell of five colors no one actually uses in a poker game its tough. Paulsons are the best chip for any game. The rubiks cube was overrated. Blockbuster video was overrated. AOL was overrated. There is zero evidence that Paulson chips are overrated and i have some unused paulson pharos chips to prove it. If at some point demand dwindles or we stop using poker chips due to technology making poker chips overall obsolete then you can say paulsons are overrated but this poker chip usually holds its value or even gains in value wheras all of these other sets (not all but most) will simply lose value. China clay are cheap and offsized with stickers falling off I definitely dont see this chip ever gaining iin value i think in most cases they will lose value. Ceramics are value losers and a lot of them look very bad and worn out pretty quickly. Paulsons are an investment that will hold or gain in worth and china clay and ceramics will most likely lose value. Not overrated - not at this point in time anyway. You can be price gauged and may not recover the investment but thats just poor buying practice. For a big game i think you should try to have the best chip.
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I can buy dice quality chips for $.03 and sell them for $.15. Does that make dice chips the “best value” out there? 5 times your money!
 

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