I caught one of my co owners helping their friend rathole
Ill give everyone a different name for this story.
So I started an online poker club and ended up working with 3 other people. (4 owners)
This story involves 6 People
4 Hosts, and 2 players
"Owners/Hosts"
Ben
Greg
Joe
Me
"Players"
Bob
Junior
BACKSTORY
I knew Ben for awhile and trusted him much more than the other two.
Greg and Joe were best friends who lived in the same city and I didnt know them very well.
Bob was a very good IRL friend of Greg and played constantly in our club.
Junior was a player referred to the club by Bob
This club was started on an app were only 1 person can have "ownership" or be the GM of the club.
Im the one who naturally assumed that role as I was keeping track of all buy ins, editing info, basically GM stuff.
LEADING UP
So.... after a few months of working with these guys, Greg asks me about handing ownership over on multiple occasions and when I refuse he makes a big deal about it saying I dont "Trust them with ownership"
It seemed really weird to me as there isnt any reason to pass ownership around as the only thing an owner can do is demote mods.
This was when I first began to question Gregs intentions.
THE INCIDENT
Another month goes by and
Im sitting at the table playing, Greg is also playing.
The buy ins are being taken by Joe on this day(Gregs IRL best friend)
Player Junior buys in for $100.
I shortly cashed out afterwards bc I had things to do.
I messaged the admin group chat that Bob still owed me for a game a few days before. Since Greg was his good friend IRL I figured he could get ahold of him.
Greg sends me some screenshots of Bob saying "he thought he paid me" or whatever.
ok no big deal.... Bob owes me and all admins agreed not to let him play until he pays.
Then about 30 min later I check back on the table and I see that Bob has bought in. I also notice that Junior doubled his money and left.
Whenever I saw this happen the possibility that Junior and Bob were the same person crossed my mind, and I asked about it in the admin group chat.
Greg quickly replies "Junior is Bobs Friend"
I wasnt convinced though because I had never gotten a payment from Junior before.
I ask multiple times "What is Juniors Cashapp"
after a few Joe says something like "Bob always pays for him I think its his Roomate or something"
It was at this point I was convinced that Junior wasnt a real person and that these two admins (Greg and Joe) were allowing him to Rathole the table.
So I started looking and the past records for games, and also my own personal payment records; and noticed some things
1:Junior only played one time when I was hosting, and the payment for that was sent to me from Joe
2: Junior and Bob only played at the same table whenever Greg or Joe were hosting
THE COVER UP
So I spend the next few days gathering evidence and asking untargeted questions.
When I finally do Present them with my evidence that they were in on it and I ask for Payment records that show me otherwise
Greg gets really defensive, Demands ownership of the club, and refuses to send payment records.
Next day im creeping on Bobs Facebook and I notice that he has a little kid named Junior. Everything clicked
There is no way that Greg didnt know about Bobs son named Junior when they are good friends irl, while also being paid from the same person.
END
There was alot of other evidence but I dont think I could fit it all lol
What would you do in this situation? How would you approach this?
Ill give everyone a different name for this story.
So I started an online poker club and ended up working with 3 other people. (4 owners)
This story involves 6 People
4 Hosts, and 2 players
"Owners/Hosts"
Ben
Greg
Joe
Me
"Players"
Bob
Junior
BACKSTORY
I knew Ben for awhile and trusted him much more than the other two.
Greg and Joe were best friends who lived in the same city and I didnt know them very well.
Bob was a very good IRL friend of Greg and played constantly in our club.
Junior was a player referred to the club by Bob
This club was started on an app were only 1 person can have "ownership" or be the GM of the club.
Im the one who naturally assumed that role as I was keeping track of all buy ins, editing info, basically GM stuff.
LEADING UP
So.... after a few months of working with these guys, Greg asks me about handing ownership over on multiple occasions and when I refuse he makes a big deal about it saying I dont "Trust them with ownership"
It seemed really weird to me as there isnt any reason to pass ownership around as the only thing an owner can do is demote mods.
This was when I first began to question Gregs intentions.
THE INCIDENT
Another month goes by and
Im sitting at the table playing, Greg is also playing.
The buy ins are being taken by Joe on this day(Gregs IRL best friend)
Player Junior buys in for $100.
I shortly cashed out afterwards bc I had things to do.
I messaged the admin group chat that Bob still owed me for a game a few days before. Since Greg was his good friend IRL I figured he could get ahold of him.
Greg sends me some screenshots of Bob saying "he thought he paid me" or whatever.
ok no big deal.... Bob owes me and all admins agreed not to let him play until he pays.
Then about 30 min later I check back on the table and I see that Bob has bought in. I also notice that Junior doubled his money and left.
Whenever I saw this happen the possibility that Junior and Bob were the same person crossed my mind, and I asked about it in the admin group chat.
Greg quickly replies "Junior is Bobs Friend"
I wasnt convinced though because I had never gotten a payment from Junior before.
I ask multiple times "What is Juniors Cashapp"
after a few Joe says something like "Bob always pays for him I think its his Roomate or something"
It was at this point I was convinced that Junior wasnt a real person and that these two admins (Greg and Joe) were allowing him to Rathole the table.
So I started looking and the past records for games, and also my own personal payment records; and noticed some things
1:Junior only played one time when I was hosting, and the payment for that was sent to me from Joe
2: Junior and Bob only played at the same table whenever Greg or Joe were hosting
THE COVER UP
So I spend the next few days gathering evidence and asking untargeted questions.
When I finally do Present them with my evidence that they were in on it and I ask for Payment records that show me otherwise
Greg gets really defensive, Demands ownership of the club, and refuses to send payment records.
Next day im creeping on Bobs Facebook and I notice that he has a little kid named Junior. Everything clicked
There is no way that Greg didnt know about Bobs son named Junior when they are good friends irl, while also being paid from the same person.
END
There was alot of other evidence but I dont think I could fit it all lol
What would you do in this situation? How would you approach this?