$0.25 Needed for Casino Aztar Indiana (Evansville) Set (1 Viewer)

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Well, I've taken the plunge on putting a 600 Piece Primary Cash Set together from Casino Aztar Indiana (Evansville) chips. It's my hometown and I really never thought it was possible to have a set from there for home use.

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As you guys know, the $1's, $5's, and $25's are readily available...but there's most likely no such thing as a $0.25 which is mandatory for my cash game. So the search begins and I wanted to see if you guys could help.
  1. I will need 200 chips minimum (a few extras would be nice...so lets call it 205.
  2. I'd like to stay at $0.80 a chip if that's possible but well, I'm in deep now so whatever it takes to get it done right.
  3. Paulson preferred but not mandatory.
  4. I'm not against solids at this point, but I think I would like a chip with some kind of spots.
  5. As far as color, I'll need some help on that, but light blue would definitely go with $5. Maybe light purple would work too to go with the lines on the primary $1. I am not against relabeling the pink, Primary $2.50 in this set, but I doubt if I will ever find 200 of them. I'm not sure I'm really excited about pink anyway.
  6. I plan to have Gear relabel these with the Aztar label shown in the picture below. Milling is not really preferred due to cost. Credit Pokerdweebz for this Garden City $1 relabel beauty...love it.
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I really don't know what is available or what prices I'm looking at. Are Garden City's available? Any other options? Any help is appreciated!
 
I think Garden City Paulson small inlay $1s may still be out there, but I'm not sure about the pricing. You may want to shoot a message to @The Chip Exchange to see if he's got any hanging around, otherwise a wanted thread in the classifieds would be your best bet.

Good luck with your search!
 
I got a rack of garden city $5's small inlay Paulson (light brown) from the chip exchange for this exact same thing. I'm just waiting for Gear labels to get sent. Will post picks when I get them.
 
Great set -- I had a set for a while, one of my favorites.

Blue is a great direction to go for quarters for that set. I used Crystal Palace hot stamp quarters for mine.

Staying at that price per chip may be tough, unless you get lucky and find a good deal on eBay or froM someone on the forum here. Some options come to mind (Cincinnati $2, Blue Chip quarters) but not for 80c/each.

Is there a thread still going with decent quantities of Garden City Paulson chips? Might be a good option or two there.
 
codeman00 said:
So that's where the Garden City's come from! Is that just a huge label that has to be removed from each side? I assume it's not stamped in?

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They're a giant inlay pressed into the chip, impossible to remove, and no good to label over. For your budget the standard inlay Garden City $5 is probably your best bet. Brown quarters would work just fine I think. There are nicer choices, but not many for that price.
 
kmccormick100 said:
They're a giant inlay pressed into the chip, impossible to remove, and no good to label over. For your budget the standard inlay Garden City $5 is probably your best bet. Brown quarters would work just fine I think. There are nicer choices, but not many for that price.
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Interesting and surprising. @Pokerdweebz, how did you turn the Garden City chips into Aztars?? Was milling involved?

So was there a standard inlay chip version of this one too? Must have been.

I'm just not a big fan of the brown unfortunately.
 
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codeman00 said:
Interesting and surprising. @Pokerdweebz, how did you turn the Garden City chips into Aztars?? Was milling involved?

So was there a standard inlay chip version of this one too? Must have been.

I'm just not a big fan of the brown unfortunately.
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There's a standard inlay $1 chip and a larger inlay $1 chip. Watch for condition though because bad condition chips are too worn for normal labels.

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I have blue Skyway Park Bowl $1's (Paulson THC) in about same condition as the Aztars as a possible option....I don't have picture available right now, but you could do a quick search here on PCF and find some pics.
 
I like the spot progression on those Aztars, and I think there's a lot of chips that could screw that up. If you don't mind, then no big deal. But otherwise, choose carefully and don't rule out solids.
 
upNdown said:
I like the spot progression on those Aztars, and I think there's a lot of chips that could screw that up. If you don't mind, then no big deal. But otherwise, choose carefully and don't rule out solids.
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I do mind and that's exactly why I'm asking for help from the experts here.

I would prefer to find a relabel chip with a spot pattern and not a solid because even though I will have $25 chips, 99% of the play will be with the $5 and below chips, most of which with $0.25 and $1. If I go with solid $0.25, then to me i don't really feel like playing with an Aztar set...which defeats the purpose of having it in the first place. I like solids personally but it's not preferred here.

I don't think Starburst chip blows up the spot progression, do you?

Oh and here is the Skyway Park Bowl $1
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codeman00 said:
I do mind and that's exactly why I'm asking for help from the experts here.

I would prefer to find a relabel chip with a spot pattern and not a solid because even though I will have $25 chips, 99% of the play will be with the $5 and below chips, most of which with $0.25 and $1. If I go with solid $0.25, then to me i don't really feel like playing with an Aztar set...which defeats the purpose of having it in the first place. I like solids personally but it's not preferred here.

I don't think Starburst chip blows up the spot progression, do you?

Oh and here is the Skyway Park Bowl $1
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No, I don't think the Stardust chip blows it up at all. Personally I think I'd rather see a 218 spot pattern, but I think you can definitely make an argument for a 214 or a 212.
 
Given the other chips in the set, a 212-spotted quarter is the perfect choice (makes a 212, 418, 412, 818 progression). Leaves room for a 218 nickel. :)
 
BGinGA said:
Given the other chips in the set, a 212-spotted quarter is the perfect choice (makes a 212, 418, 412, 818 progression). Leaves room for a 218 nickel. :)
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Would you mind giving me a little chip progression lesson? Maybe there's a thread covers this but I don't really understand the progression significance or what leads to a good or bad progression.
 
In theory, there really is no right or wrong progression. In fact, it really only exists in the minds of overly-enthusiastic chip nerds -- chip manufacturers, casinos, and most of earth's inhabitants are totally oblivious of any such thing.

In general, it speaks to the 'need' or desire to have a logical progression of simpler spot patterns on the lowest denominations gradually increase in complexity as chips progress to the largest denominations. But not always. :sneaky: Sometimes it's just a good mix of patterns (and colors) that meld well with each other, which is, of course, totally subjective to the individual.
 
BGinGA said:
In theory, there really is no right or wrong progression. In fact, it really only exists in the minds of overly-enthusiastic chip nerds -- chip manufacturers, casinos, and most of earth's inhabitants are totally oblivious of any such thing.

In general, it speaks to the 'need' or desire to have a logical progression of simpler spot patterns on the lowest denominations gradually increase in complexity as chips progress to the largest denominations. But not always. :sneaky: Sometimes it's just a good mix of patterns (and colors) that meld well with each other, which is, of course, totally subjective to the individual.
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Got it, thanks for the lesson.
 
I love this chip for a relabel...although it won't be possible to get any. Wrong spots but love the color.
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So far, the Stardust light blue is the best available. I just wish it was a bit darker.
 
Would a relabeled Paris $1 work? (if it's possible to find 2 racks)
Or are the spots too close to the Aztar $1 ?

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They are a different mold but if that doesn't bother you they look like they would match.

Edit: I can't type
 
codeman00 said:
Well that shows how much of a novice I am. I have no idea what mold my chips are versus the Paris chip.
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@BGinGA Is the one to ask for better explanations, but the Aztar chips are RHC (reverse hat cane) and the Paris chips are THC (top hat cane). Generally chippers seem to prefer the THC mold (generally but it's still personal preference). The biggest difference you can notice is that the inlay area on a RHC chip is larger than a THC chip. Some more info can be found here:

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/paulson-molds-rhc-scv-lcv-what-are-these-abbreviations.4247/
http://www.antiquegamblingchips.com/molddesign_manmade.htm
 
Your aztars are on the RHC (reverse hat and cane) mold.
The Paris chip is on a THC (top hat and cane) mold - not sure if it's LCV (long cane version) or SCV (short cane version) but the difference there is too subtle to matter to most people.
The RHC chips have a larger recess (to accommodate bigger inlays,) leaving a narrower band of clay around the perimeter - the place where the hats and canes are.
The THC chips have a ring around the outer edge, and the hats and canes are inside that - more exposed clay, smaller recess for smaller inlays.
 
And this is a whole other can of worms. Feel free to mix molds within your set, if you're comfortable with it - many people are. But there seems to be a general preference toward keeping all the chips in one set on the same mold. Though that's really an artificial hobbiest standard, in my opinion, because there are plenty of casinos that mix molds within their chip sets.
 

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