The Heirloom Set (Low Lvl, Low Stakes Cash) (1 Viewer)

Does the black border indicate the chip because I don’t think CPC offers that big of an inlay

n0m1n4l said:

Does the black border indicate the chip because I don’t think CPC offers that big of an inlay

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Since its a vector image I can scale it without getting blurred. This photo below shows the scale. These are based on 7"8 inlay. I just don't really understand enough about where the inlay will be cut so have added a bit of extra width on the black outer rim. The black outer rim should be pretty thin when finished, or maybe I lose it all together in the design process. This is one of the reasons why I might need to hire a designer to give it an 'OK'.

Jake said:

Design update:

I have learned the basics of Inkscape and am working on inlays. I am cutting them out and putting them on sample chips etc.. They are starting to look pretty good, I can finally see now what an end product might look like. Ideally I want to be able to say I designed these chips including the inlays. I would be interested in hiring a designer to 'OK' my designs and make sure they will come out how I expect them too. Is this a possible service they provide? Maybe they will advise me that my font is too small for effective print or that the size of the file is wrong etc.. I'd be looking for peace of mind and an honest opinion etc. But I am not at that stage yet.

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Once you're more decided you can send me a PM and I'd be happy to review the files for you to help make sure they are print-ready.

timinater said:

Once you're more decided you can send me a PM and I'd be happy to review the files for you to help make sure they are print-ready.

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Thanks! That's very nice of you. I'll send you a message once i'm at that point.

Bright:



Traditional:

Hey hope everyone is well.

I am currently playing around with the idea of the following Denominations:

5c
20c
$1
$5
$20 (or $25)

Essentially, breaking the 25c quarter into two chips, a 20c and a 5c. The 5c, which we agree will eventually become outdated, can be used in conjunction with the 20c as a 25c (in effect) in the meantime.

Each player at my table with a $50 buy in would get the following:

20 x 5c ($1)
20 x 20c ($4)
20 x $1 ($20)
5 x $5 ($25)

I feel like my friends will not like playing 25c/25c blinds (despite the fact its just a 15c difference etc) and would prefer to play 5c/10c or 10c/25c etc, and will enjoy having 3 full stacks in front of them. It gives more flexibility for blinds and micro stakes. Even if the 5c is scrapped in future, the 20c I imagine would hold value almost as well as a 25c as the low frac of the set.. I am sure this has been thought of before, and perhaps there is a reason why this denom setup is not common? As I mostly see 5c 25c $1 $5 $20 etc.


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Any thoughts are welcome as always.

Regards.

25c chips are used when paying blackjacks at 3 to 2 and are conventional, also most countries use a 25 cent coin you don't so a 20 cent chip is fine if accepted by your players

5c 20c $1 $5 $20 denominations are extremely economical, if needed you can get away with less chips per person

A 800-1000 8 player chip set can support 20 player $50 buy-ins without major problems (160/160/260/???/???)

8 players 20/20/20/5
10 players 16/16/16/6 or 12/12/17/6
20 players with 8/8/13/7

Have Fun
PS A 10 player $20 buy-in is 16/16/16 breakdown

Craig D said:

25c chips are used when paying blackjacks at 3 to 2 and are conventional, also most countries use a 25 cent coin you don't so a 20 cent chip is fine if accepted by your players

5c 20c $1 $5 $20 denominations are extremely economical, if needed you can get away with less chips per person

A 800-1000 8 player chip set can support 20 player $50 buy-ins without major problems (160/160/260/???/???)

8 players 20/20/20/5
10 players 16/16/16/6 or 12/12/17/6
20 players with 8/8/13/7

Have Fun
PS A 10 player $20 buy-in is 16/16/16 breakdown

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Thanks for your thoughts regarding the concept of a 20c chip. I am aiming for a set that caters to 2-10 players.

Was most recently thinking of an 800 chip set concept:

I like the idea of stacks of 20 chips so I am thinking of 200 x 5c/20c/$1 so each player could have 3 x stacks of 20. The question is how many $5/$20 chips. I was thinking 120 x $5's and 80 x $20's. (Most people seem to think this would be far too few $5 in particular and I am open to that argument.)

200 x 5c ($10)
200 x 20c ($40)
200 x $1 ($200)
120 x $5 ($600)
80 x $20 ($1,600)

- 800 Chips.
- $2,450 Total Value.

If for some reason my game ever got that big, I would not mind seeing cash bills on the table if we run out of large denom chips as there will always be enough low and mid denom chips going around the table to play effectively with chips while the notes would be mostly unused and give a little bit of a gaudy 'cash game' appearance.. If you see cash on the table you know its a high value game. I like the concept of being able to see the value of the game or the hand at a glance. This is why I am focusing on the idea of a color progression and have replaced the concept of a black high denom chip with a bright DT or DP etc.. So that at a glance one could see that this player has value. The color and spot progression of the chips might show at a glance the value of the pot etc. These visual signals I think would increase the feeling of the stakes increasing which might add to the game.

When placing an order, is it worth getting an extra 5-10 of each of the first 3 denoms as spares? Just thinking that if in a few years i'm missing two 20c chips and we have a full table, it will get under my skin and ruin the 3 x stacks of 20 concept. Whereas if $5's or $20's get lost, cash bills could always suffice. (I feel like I answered my own question lol)

When chips are produced at CPC, does anyone know in what quantities their molds produce them. I.e. If I ordered 61 chips of one type. Would that last chip cause any extra work for them? I just want to take into consideration CPC's manfacturing process so I make an order that works effectively with their molds and reduces their waste etc.

Always buy spares, get more spares of the lower denominations than the larger value chips

Order the chips you need, if you get a bonus chip or two great! but do not count on them

How many 5s or 20s you need is not the same for every game

Your total bank value should be two or three times the largest amount you have ever had in play

I don't like cash on the table, "borrow" larger live chips from your local Casino and use them, if they are used often buy some more chips or plaques

Remember you will be the one using the chips not us, buy what makes you happy

Have Fun

Design update:

I was finding my self going in circles with the design. Sometimes one color away from it looking right.

"I'll put the blue here"
"Now I need to change the $1 again"
"Now I need a Green chip"
"I dont like the green"
"Lets put the blue back"
And repeat..

Nex's latest cpc set came in and I really liked the $2.50 pink chip. It re inspired me in a few ways. Instead of having $5 and $20, I think I will go with a $2.50 and a $10. For the stakes we will be playing I think this will work well and make it so that these chips see more play.
I am fascinated by the pink chip with butterscotch and light green. Just looking at the combination with my sample chips has opened up my eyes to new combinations. I am starting to see more options which are subtle and not as 'contrasty'. The set below is Heirloom set 75. I have saved 75 designs lol. I think I am almost there..



5c/10c or 10c/25c Games.

5c - Bright so that players can visually see that blinds are in and the hand is starting.
25c - This has always been the most difficult chip for me. I had given up on the blue 25c/white $1 combo and was working on a blue $1. Then I realized the blue $1 would make a cool 25c that I would enjoy.
$1 - So many designs I made had no color red, or red was added just in order for it to be somewhere in the set. I think this iteration works pretty well, but i'm not head over heels. 3TA316 could also work, or perhaps a small change in color may be in the cards.
$2.50 - Love it. Big thanks to Nex for yet more inspiration in my designs.
$10 - I saw this chip somewhere on this site, Black with DT and BW spots, I wish I remember whose it was so I could give credit. It's with 6A14 edge spots and for a Level 3 chip it is the most expensive/high value looking chip I have experimented with so far. I have it with the 6D18 because the Pink chip used 6A14 and I want to have different spot types.

I used paint and made a really rough looking splash pot of Heirloom set 75. It has helped me greatly to visualize what a design might look like in play and I am better able to judge each chip in different positions next to different chips etc.



The 5c, 25c, $2.50 are pretty much finalized. I will still play around with some options for the $1 and the $10. Or I may make the blue chip the $1 and use the white as the 25c. Any thoughts are of course welcome.

Regards.

Don't thank me for the $2.50 though... thank the unknown original designer (y) :thumbsup:

Jake said:

Bright:

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Now I like this idea the best with the blue 25c and the orange 5$. The Purple 20$ chip is nice and I love 20$ chips but I'm partial to black for a 20$ chip. Very nice spot progression.
I know you want a 5c chip. I hear you but you could use 25/25 blinds for low stakes poker and just stick with 25c chips.
I know I'm not you but if it were me ordering I'd get
200 - 25c blue chips...…….$50.00
300- 1$ white chips...…..$300.00
400 - 5$ orange chips...$2000.00
100- 20$ purple chips...$2000.00 (but remember I like black 20$ chips)
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1000 chips...………………….$4350.00 cash value. you can play low stakes or pretty high stakes for home (friendly) games.
Just a thought.

asam2006 said:

Now I like this idea the best with the blue 25c and the orange 5$. The Purple 20$ chip is nice and I love 20$ chips but I'm partial to black for a 20$ chip. Very nice spot progression.
I know you want a 5c chip. I hear you but you could use 25/25 blinds for low stakes poker and just stick with 25c chips.
I know I'm not you but if it were me ordering I'd get
200 - 25c blue chips...…….$50.00
300- 1$ white chips...…..$300.00
400 - 5$ orange chips...$2000.00
100- 20$ purple chips...$2000.00 (but remember I like black 20$ chips)
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1000 chips...………………….$4350.00 cash value. you can play low stakes or pretty high stakes for home (friendly) games.
Just a thought.

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After asking around my friends it seems that they would prefer a 5c chip. I am thinking about the following 800 chip set which would account for games of 5c/10c, 10c/25c and 25c/50c plus spares of the workhorse chips:

I would shy away from using non-standard denominations (20c and $2.50). If you love the pink use it as your frac or make a pink $5. Non-standard denoms might sound like a good idea, but it will make counting chips, calculating pots, and splitting pots (if playing a split pot game) more difficult.

I have two questions, if anyone had any insights I would appreciate it.

One: Regarding Mold stack-ability/flaws. Does anyone have a link to a discussion about each mold on offer at CPC. I am looking to choose between the ones on offer that produce the fewest spinners and which house the inlay the best. For example I have heard that no-molds sometimes have issues with inlays and that the H-mold inlays sometimes protrude above the level of the chip etc.

(One other thing I have noticed is that the Scrown and Lcrown samples I received seem more 'plasticy' and smaller, lighter. I prefer the weight and texture of the A-mold. I think the material for the chips is really suited to the textured regular molds on offer.)

Two: I often note that when looking at pictures of CPC chips here on the site, a few colours regularly look fairly different compared to my sample chips. In particular the Pink and the Canary. Should I go strictly by the colors of my sample set of cpc chips and just hope for the best and expect some deviation?

Dang it. I was totally invested in this! I should have skipped to the end first and realised I would get no resolution, now that Jake is inactive.
Whatever happened to this heirloom set?!
What a great idea