I just got some new spirit mold CC's, and I've started the cleaning process. It will be a bit before I get labels, and I was wondering if there's any reason to avoid oiling before I put the labels on. Thanks!
Any reason not to oil before labeling? (1 Viewer)
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Jambine
Full House
label first. Chips clean & dry (no oil)
crussader
Flush
Labels do not stick to oiled surfaces.
links_slayer
4 of a Kind
You mean other than the fact that you’ll get better results if you label then oil?
This is contrary to what I have read everywhere else and the experience may differ as I was working with Paulson's (which seem to suck up oil vs my CC Milanos) BUT I have oiled all my chips before labeling with Gear labels and have had no issues. I would actually be more concerned with oiling after application as you risk more oil getting in/around the edge of the label.
After oiling I have let sit for 24 hours and have made sure the area where the label is applied is dry early in the process (after about 1-2 hours of sitting).
When I have been in a rush there have been chips I have oiled and labeled in the same day.
I haven't had issues with any of the labels being loose or coming off. My experience with Gear labels is that after 24 hours they are on to stay.
Thanks,
Grant
After oiling I have let sit for 24 hours and have made sure the area where the label is applied is dry early in the process (after about 1-2 hours of sitting).
When I have been in a rush there have been chips I have oiled and labeled in the same day.
I haven't had issues with any of the labels being loose or coming off. My experience with Gear labels is that after 24 hours they are on to stay.
Thanks,
Grant
You are probably right. When I think about it my Milanos absorbed MUCH less oil than the Paulson chips.
AWenger
Full House
I would agree with this. Especially if you intend to oil the faces of the chips as well, oil can get in around the edge of the label. It may also depend on the label & adhesive used.
It should be safe to oil chips first, as long as they are completely dried afterwards. It make take longer than 24 hours for China Clays to dry compared to Paulsons. If the existing chips have inlays, thoroughly wipe any remaining oil off the inlays with an absorbent cloth or paper towels, and leave out to dry further, before labellng.
OP
OP
Good info. It'll be likely a month or more before I get labels, so I may get a head start on the oiling, since they'll have abundant time to dry.
AWenger
Full House
I'd also recommend testing a few chips with oiling first, to see if it even makes a difference to you.
I usually oil Paulson chips, because the colors get so much more saturated, vibrant, and uniform -- especially the dark colors. But I used to own a set of china clay Pharaoh's ($25 & up tournament denoms) that really didn't look too much different after oiling, so I never did a full oiling on them, except for a light rub with a towel on the edges every once in a while to keep the chalky look away. Although I recall @Hobbyphilic had a thread where he oiled some china clays and the difference was night and day after oiling, but based on the pics I remember, those china clays may have needed several weeks to dry completely to be ready for labels.
I usually oil Paulson chips, because the colors get so much more saturated, vibrant, and uniform -- especially the dark colors. But I used to own a set of china clay Pharaoh's ($25 & up tournament denoms) that really didn't look too much different after oiling, so I never did a full oiling on them, except for a light rub with a towel on the edges every once in a while to keep the chalky look away. Although I recall @Hobbyphilic had a thread where he oiled some china clays and the difference was night and day after oiling, but based on the pics I remember, those china clays may have needed several weeks to dry completely to be ready for labels.
I have experience on this! I got the spirit mold chips, cleaned with water, dried, applied labels, then oiled with the oiling done right method. They came out great and with these, the oiling made a significant difference. I put on what would probably be considered a heavy coat of oil and they soaked it up. I can't speak to applying the labels afterwards though.
I'm way ahead of myself here, but I had a plan to oil before I label (all solid Paulson THCs). I would probably give at least 3-4 days to dry before putting on the labels, too.
But I'm going to have to mill first. 2600 (approx.) of them.
But I'm going to have to mill first. 2600 (approx.) of them.
Quad Johnson
Two Pair
China clays definitely see improvement with some oil. See these Milano's I oiled this past week. I didn't do the "oiling done right" method but the procedure outlined on Apache's website (2 tablespoons mineral oil to 2 gallons warm water and give them a bath) and you can clearly see these colors, particularly the red, got significantly more vibrant with oil. Sadly, I didn't think to do rack by rack comparisons so this is the only before and I after I have of the Milano set.
My Majestic set I just received yesterday will be getting oiled this week so I will definitely do some side by sides and get better pictures for comparisons but yes. China clay's love oil too.
Attachments
Yes. It does really improve the colour on them, but it doesnt seem to last as long on the CC either.
Jambine
Full House
Yeah uhm… don't
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