"Poker Room" - Bellagio tribute customs (1 Viewer)

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  • Bellagio original

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  • Bellagio 2

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  • Bellagio 3

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  • Bellagio 4

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  • Different set

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Bellagio: Tribute or not tribute? - That is the question!

Hi,

after years of collecting, mostly Paulson casino chips, I decided that it is the time to start with a custom set.
First thoughts: I would like to get a timeless set, but no white 1's, red 5's, green 25's etc. because I already got three of those sets (PNY, St. Jo's sec. set, HS Cleveland)

Inlay - After purchasing some Rounders samples with different molds I started to like the CPC chips but also decided, that I would like to get more colorful spots + progression. Although I liked the simple inlay I was pretty sure, that I want something different.
Regarding to the inlay my most favorite casino chip is the Mirage (5$) with the colored palms, but after some first mock ups it looked like the colored palms and the colorful spots do not match together. I realized, that I also prefer the dark background of my HS Clevelands, or the Casli Rounders. Next influence was the Bellagio tribute SDPM mold set and now I am pretty sure, that a simple & dark inlay should be the first choice. My last name starts with a "B", so why don't use the Bellagio "B" in the background?!

Spots - Well, this is a hard decision. From my point I would like to copy an idea of a pro, because I am not a pro. There are several color combos out there which I like, but I reduced them to just a few (for example the Mirage 5's are great, but it's again a red 5$ chip...)
I had a look at some customs at this board and at the current casino chips and made a few adjustments. I know, that there are a lot of people who believe, that you should invent your own color combos, but I like the save way and would like to know what I get, before I place an order. Hope there are some people who understand my point.

Mock ups - Nevertheless here we go:

EDIT NOVEMBER, THE 21ST. 2017!!!
  • 1st. "original"
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  • 2nd lavender, red, orange, dg tiger is maybe too much red so why not change that
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  • 3rd is a mixture of the original and 2nd version + another green for the green chip
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  • Something very different to the Bellagio theme, but I still like it
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Looking forward to your thoughts,

Sebastian
 
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No rule against using colours that obviously go well together unless you are determined to be original and/or reinvent the wheel. The Bellagio/Aria colour combos are awesome and I for one have no problem (obviously) using them as inspiration.

I have mocked up heaps of different colour combos and I keep coming back to my favourites. CPC are expensive and they are yours, so get what you like :)

Good luck with it mate.

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  • Original: Fair start, some color weaknesses. Get a color sample set!! Some of your choices are way darker than they are displayed in the mockup tool and would likely look shitty when produced. Namely the regular pink on the red chip and the regular orange on the lavender, orange and green chips. Best in set definitely the black one.
  • 1st: Blue chip looks more balanced. Lavender chip got some contrast improvement with the brown, but still will have brightness issues as the regular as well as DG orange are damn dark. Might want to pick DG Tiger as replacement. Red chip: Adjustments look good. Orange chip: dito. Green chip: could work like this, could just as well work with regular green. Yellow chip: DG Saturn looks kind of green-ish. Might rather want to use Canary as base color. Black chip: DG Green spot will barely change the overall look but add some better visibility under blacklight. Broad white spots could really stay regular white. Would only pick bright white if you went with 1/8" spots.
  • 3rd: DG Yellow chip looks boring to me.
  • Brysch: Sorry but all of these are way out of touch. Complete first row, I rather not even detail it. Second row: First chip - might look good in the designer but will be way too dark all in all, not enough contrast between the colors. Second chip - way too bright, not enough contrast again. Third chip - sorry, but this color combination outright triggers eye cancer for me. Fourth chip - could work well, taken on its own, but does not fit the rest. I think this is from @Ronoh's Pillage&Plunder. Third row: This chip once again does not have enough contrast. All in all, these don't look like they fit together either. Second and third row probably somewhat do, but the first row is way off to work well together with these.
Picking up color/spot combination ideas from others is perfectly fine, but what you ultimately have to should look out for is that all the chips in your set look good together. Taking ideas from multiple very different sets, this poses a hard challenge. My suggestion is if you want to make a Bellagio tribute set, keep it to Bellagio colors/spots. Maybe consider Aria chip designs too, their style is similar (same company after all, much like how HS Cleveland and Cincinnati chips look like one big set too)

Of course in the end it's your set and you have to be happy with it.
 
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  • Original: Fair start, some color weaknesses. Get a color sample set!! Some of your choices are way darker than they are displayed in the mockup tool and would likely look shitty when produced. Namely the regular pink on the red chip and the regular orange on the lavender, orange and green chips. Best in set definitely the black one.
  • 1st: Blue chip looks more balanced. Lavender chip got some contrast improvement with the brown, but still will have brightness issues as the regular as well as DG orange are damn dark. Might want to pick DG Tiger as replacement. Red chip: Adjustments look good. Orange chip: dito. Green chip: could work like this, could just as well work with regular green. Yellow chip: DG Saturn looks kind of green-ish. Might rather want to use Canary as base color. Black chip: DG Green spot will barely change the overall look but add some better visibility under blacklight. Broad white spots could really stay regular white. Would only pick bright white if you went with 1/8" spots.
  • 3rd: DG Yellow chip looks boring to me.
  • Brysch: Sorry but all of these are way out of touch. Complete first row, I rather not even detail it. Second row: First chip - might look good in the designer but will be way too dark all in all, not enough contrast between the colors. Second chip - way too bright, not enough contrast again. Third chip - sorry, but this color combination outright triggers eye cancer for me. Fourth chip - could work well, taken on its own, but does not fit the rest. I think this is from @Ronoh's Pillage&Plunder. Third row: This chip once again does not have enough contrast. All in all, these don't look like they fit together either. Second and third row probably somewhat do, but the first row is way off to work well together with these.
Picking up color/spot combination ideas from others is perfectly fine, but what you ultimately have to should look out for is that all the chips in your set look good together. Taking ideas from multiple very different sets, this poses a hard challenge. My suggestion is if you want to make a Bellagio tribute set, keep it to Bellagio colors/spots. Maybe consider Aria chip designs too, their style is similar (same company after all, much like how HS Cleveland and Cincinnati chips look like one big set too)
Of course in the end it's your set and you have to be happy with it.

Thanks for all the detailed feedback, I really do appreciate it.

Getting a color sample set is a simple but good idea. Maybe I can get a used one or I'll purchase a new one from CPC. If sb. wants to sell his set please pm.
I made some changes and you may check them attached at this thread including some new questions:
  1. Base colors: Lavender, mandarin red and dayglo tiger: Might there be a problem to differentiate these colors inside bad light circumstances? If so, I tried to change the lavender chip to a "Foxwoods 2$" color combo.
  2. Spot progression: Shouldn't the original "Bellagio 1$ spot level" come after the 4A18 and 6A18 spot level?
  3. Green chip: Dayglo green or just green - the sample set might solve this problem
  4. 6A14 chip: base color problem: it should be a yellow, but is there a nice yellow which is comparable to the original? Sample set might save the problem, again.
Cognizance: I really should get a sample set and try to make a decision if it should be as close as possible to the original or if I really think, that I can optimize it or not.
 

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  • Base colors: Both mandarin red and lavender get hard to distinguish in very bad lighting conditions. The DG tiger stays fairly bright. All DG colors with the exception of DG orange do that - which is why I'd add at least one of them as a spot on each of those dark regular body color chips.
  • Spot progression: Just look at HS Cleveland: $1=3A14, $5=3D18, $25=6A14, $100=4TSA18. Screw strict progression by spot type. Main thing that really counts I think is that the overall chip look should become "more important" as in looking more valuable. The thin spots can work for low denoms, but so can the broader ones. Plus, keep in mind those 1/8" spots are going to bite your ass in terms of production costs. They really will. I wouldn't add too many chips with those spots unless you have really deep pockets and the willingness to empty them.
  • 6A14 chip: CPC doesn't have a yellow that comes too close to the Paulson yellow used on the Bellagio $20 (and judging by the looks, my Crystal Park $5 as well). The white looks like a good-looking and fitting alternate choice, the Blades set apparently came to the same conclusion.
 

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  • Base colors: Both mandarin red and lavender get hard to distinguish in very bad lighting conditions. The DG tiger stays fairly bright. All DG colors with the exception of DG orange do that - which is why I'd add at least one of them as a spot on each of those dark regular body color chips.
  • Spot progression: Just look at HS Cleveland: $1=3A14, $5=3D18, $25=6A14, $100=4TSA18. Screw strict progression by spot type. Main thing that really counts I think is that the overall chip look should become "more important" as in looking more valuable. The thin spots can work for low denoms, but so can the broader ones. Plus, keep in mind those 1/8" spots are going to bite your ass in terms of production costs. They really will. I wouldn't add too many chips with those spots unless you have really deep pockets and the willingness to empty them.
  • 6A14 chip: CPC doesn't have a yellow that comes too close to the Paulson yellow used on the Bellagio $20 (and judging by the looks, my Crystal Park $5 as well). The white looks like a good-looking and fitting alternate choice, the Blades set apparently came to the same conclusion.
Think you are absolutely right. Thanks for the feedback, again. The longer I work the more I like the high levels... I am very sure that I have to sell some current racks or maybe sets, before I'll place an order at cpc.
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Okay, so here is my latest version - I didn't get the color samples until now, but I hope they'll arrive TODAY!!! :ROFL: :ROFLMAO:

I made my decision, that I'll keep the "B" in the background which stands for my last name and that the rest of the inlay should be close to the Bellagio, but as neutral as possible as well. I added a 3$ Aria spotted chip as the second chip. Think that works pretty well and I like the green (yes, display and design tool green - we will see).
For that reason I used "Poker Room" in the headline. I had some other thoughts and tried to find something with a "B", but "Bang Bang Club" oder "Big Bluff" sounds ugly to me and doesn't has anything to do with my privat poker sessions.

@Phantom made the first inlay using "Poker Room" instead of Bellagio. Maybe there should stay "Las Vegas / Nevada" under the headline, but that's fine tuning and maybe too much. I am happy about every help I can get. Looking forward to your feedback and cross fingers, that the color samples will arrive today!!

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Denominations and spot levels:
  • 10cent, 20cent, 50 cent, 1$, and maybe later additional 3$ and 5$ chips (without the mandarin red and green chip) - L4, L4, L7, L6 and later L11, L3
  • 5cent, 10cent, 20cent, 50cent, 1$, and maybe later additional 3$, 5$ and 10$ - L4, L4, L7, L9, L6 and later L7, L11, L3
Depending on the players we use to play very low 5/10 or 10/20, but I think, that they won't care, if it's always 10/20 in the future and I like the idea to split the order, because of my balance and it is my first custom set and I don't want to put it all in. ;)
 
I don’t like using non traditional colors in weird places, ie the green Aria $3 as a $5 (?). I vote you use Cali colors, since you want to get away from the white/red/green $1/5/25. These chips are all almost direct copies of actual Bellagio chips (and a few of my favorite denoms) and I think the progression works well.

Frac, $1, $5, $25, $100
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I don’t like using non traditional colors in weird places, ie the green Aria $3 as a $5 (?). I vote you use Cali colors, since you want to get away from the white/red/green $1/5/25. These chips are all almost direct copies of actual Bellagio chips (and a few of my favorite denoms) and I think the progression works well.
Frac, $1, $5, $25, $100

Thanks for the feedback, but I disagree in some points. Regarding to the Aria chip @Nex for example said: "Maybe consider Aria chip designs too, their style is similar (same company after all, much like how HS Cleveland and Cincinnati chips look like one big set too)" and I agree with him.

Regarding to the denominations I consider to use the blue chip as 5cent and the light green (aria) as 10 cent. I think that works pretty well especially for our home games.
 
I like no. 3 but dislike the edge spots on the blue chip. I think the edge spots should be similar colors or somehow balanced. The 3 diff colors on this chip really tilts me.
 
I like no. 3 but dislike the edge spots on the blue chip. I think the edge spots should be similar colors or somehow balanced. The 3 diff colors on this chip really tilts me.

I think he’s trying to tribute the Bellagio $1 chip there, which has three different colored spots...

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My color sample set arrived today. - That makes things more concrete - or difficult - to make a decisions. So many colors... Taking enough time should solve this problem.

The Paulson lavender looks different (very light) to the cpc color samples. I changed it to a grey. Looks strange in the design tool, but the base colors next to each other on a creme white table looks pretty good to me.
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Fair enough. I still dislike the design.
Just because Vegas does it that doesn't make it right :)

Interesting, that I thought about changing the grey in the blue chip to orange, which might fit better to the dg yellow and yellow (gold).
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This is closer to the original (except the green "Aria" chip).
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Bellagio is by far not the only place that has such a chip.

You can definitely make classy looking chips that have 3 different spot colors all around. Just don't overdo it. One chip in the whole set is absolutely the maximum where you can pull something like the Bellagio $1. If you do more, you'll end up with a mess of confetti. I would definitely not do both the blue and green chip. Pick one. (Prefer the blue one)

New gray chip definitely looks good, better than the old lavender version. Disclaimer though, I'm not at all into purple/lavender. (Except for the classic $500)
 
Also, keep in mind this inlay size on CSQ might produce results that look rather... rough around the inlay edges.

Might fare better with FDL if you want a large inlay.

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Does anyone make and sell the Bellagio inlay sticker?

Looking to make a 50-cent frac, maybe with the Bellagio $3 chip.
 
No rule against using colours that obviously go well together unless you are determined to be original and/or reinvent the wheel. The Bellagio/Aria colour combos are awesome and I for one have no problem (obviously) using them as inspiration.

I have mocked up heaps of different colour combos and I keep coming back to my favourites. CPC are expensive and they are yours, so get what you like :)

Good luck with it mate.

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