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Dont matsui racks hold both 39 and 43mm chips and also fit in a birdcage?
They cook dinner and wash the dishes too. They can’t travel in time though.
Dont matsui racks hold both 39 and 43mm chips and also fit in a birdcage?
...within the casino.
Not in a vehicle to a location outside a casino. They are not designed for vehicle travel.
Often times they are on a wheeled cart being pushed around hallways, elevators, bring dual wielded by clumsy floor people, and hastily grabbed and returned to wherever.
they are definitely NOT made for displaying chips at home, and are indeed made for transporting chips.
But for me, when transporting chips outside my house, it will not be done in a birdcage (with or without pins).
I haven't hit up CPC yet, but I will today. As for who sends what brand of racks, I'm trying to acquire ALL of them, but I could use a little direction to speed things up. Anyone know any definitive info on this to save time?Are the Apache racks the Paulson racks? Are the ABC Racks the Chipco racks? I know CPC offers racks that fit their chips splendidly. I know @dennis63 sells racks that fit the Key West CPC chips perfectly. Not real sure what you will get from Amazon, Spinettis, or GGS... but they deserve to be in the group.
Better use of the polling system. I see how it works now. Thanks. The only problem with doing it all at once is that you guys will have to wait until I have a slightly more concrete design figured out, particularly with the pegs and rack size issue. Have to wait for the 43mm chips and racks to get here to do that accurately, but the basic design is already done.Personally If you're not going to put all of the options in one poll then I would do individual threads for each one and only allow 1 vote for each. Allow people to change their vote though.
If you're going to do it ITT then edit the title to let people know the poll was added and for god's sake put them all in the the same poll with multiple votes allowed. Changing the poll every few days is going to turn into a cluster eff and only a jackass would vote more than once in a section. Let the votes be seen publicly so we can roast their ass when they get caught.
Cracking me up, design by committee... My goal is to make sure that we alienate as few PCF'ers and future potential clients as we can. By keeping the process democratic, we get to hear everyone's point of view about what they'd like to see in the cases, good ideas or not. I would hate to lose half of potential orders because I failed to listen and have the Apex never see the light of day. Besides, we've had a couple of really awesome suggestions already!
How about a simple improved chip rack?...What I can’t do is use the same racks for different chip widths, and I don’t have a 43 mm birdcage. I can get anything else you are proposing already.
First things first, but I do plan to offer a solution to this too. Chips come in quite a few sizes, as everyone here knows, so it's not feasible to design a rack that fits them all, but designing a poker chip rack to accommodate the two most prominent diameters seems perfectly doable. If not in the exact same model, then, at least, in a series of racks that are compatible, stackable with one another.
https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/the-perfect-chip-rack-pcr.36216/ [/QUOTE ]
Is an adjustable chip rack a thing? One that can open and close to snug on to any chip.
I'm sure this can be done, but, as I said above, it's really not feasible from a manufacturing standpoint. I know you're not asking for this, @BigPappaPump, but it seems that some people are. I think a poker chip rack that held 39mm and 43mm chips snugly would have to be overengineered and probably too bulky to design some sort of spring-loaded mechanism for chip retention. It also makes them a bit more cumbersome to operate. Would you have to pull the spring-loaded plate back in order to get the chips out? Would you still be able to lay a fully-loaded rack sideways on the poker table and just stand them up? I think it would be a lot easier to create two models of rack, one for 43mm and one for 39mm, that stacked and fit together naturally. All you would have to do is space the barrels apart uniformly, which would mean more space between the 39mm chips, to fit the spacing of 43mm chips. That's if we designed racks without any sort of interlocking system, like these would have. https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/the-perfect-chip-rack-pcr.36216/ Personally, as protective as everyone here is about unnecessary wear on their chips--and rightly so, as they've spent thousands on them--I can't understand why everyone's okay with them coming into contact with the racks. The chips were never designed to be load-bearing, especially clays! Shouldn't the racks bear the full weight of the chips and not the chips themselves?I must respectfully 1000% disagree... they are actually for transporting chips to and from the vault, count room, cashiers cage, poker, and blackjack tables... they are completely made for traveling, and that’s it.
Now, what the chipping community does with them is a different story. But, they are indeed for transporting chips.You are correct they are for transporting chips but to and from a local area not traveling on a plane or long distances...within the casino.
Not in a vehicle to a location outside a casino. They are not designed for vehicle travel.Obviously, I agree with them being made for travel. If they were made for display only, they wouldn't even have handles. They're definitely not meant for long travel, as in planes, but they should work perfectly fine in motor vehicles.Now, I don't entirely disagree with you here. However, if you're trying to define what they are designed for, I'd say that traveling/transporting, is more accurate than "Displaying chips at home."
Often times they are on a wheeled cart being pushed around hallways, elevators, bring dual wielded by clumsy floor people, and hastily grabbed and returned to wherever.
Perhaps you weren't being quite so detailed about your definition, and maybe more people HERE, in this community use them for that more often. But I digress, they are definitely NOT made for displaying chips at home, and are indeed made for transporting chips.
But, let's not forget--birdcages should travel well AND display well. Otherwise, we could just find some Pelican cases or a glass case to put our stacks in. If they're going to travel, might as well make them road-ready. If they're going to display, might as well make them beautiful. We're designing a birdcage from scratch. There's no reason we shouldn't make it everything that it can be. Everything that it should have been from the get-go.
So much this.
I haven't hit up CPC yet, but I will today. As for who sends what brand of racks, I'm trying to acquire ALL of them, but I could use a little direction to speed things up. Anyone know any definitive info on this to save time?
I see where you guys are coming from. However, if I'm taking my chips outside the house, they will indeed be done in the birdcage if it has any type of locking mechanism on it, and has the card storage as he's described. That handle is so much easier to carry 1000 chips in than any other heavy aluminum case has been. I'm actually super-pumped to use a birdcage for travel and moving these rather than the shotty aluminum cases, and not quite as heavy duty pelican case.
So, hopefully it will be a well rounded, multi use case
If people are worried about racks sliding, and maring up the clear acrylic, you could just put permanent stops (a bumper) very close to the acrylic.
I transported chips in a birdcage in the back of my car once. I say once, because when I got to my destination I found two of the lower racks shattered, and chips splattered everywhere.
Huh?Maybe my sarcasm filter is off, but I retract my 'Like' of your previous post.
It would be the weight of 400 chips sirYeah, in a 1000 count birdcage, the bottom rack has the weight of 500 chips in it. Add potholes and you bounce 500 chips in those bottom plastic rows... Tough to survive.
It would be the weight of 400 chips sir
Bottom rack holds 100 chips + 4 racks on top of it = the weight of 500 chips
^ hoping this would come with/have available spare bench dogs? 99% chance I never move them from 39mm position but I have a unique talent for losing things.
Looks like the 1000-chip case wins by a landslide!
Feet: I chose a 1" Diameter x 3.75" H round foot. The last pic shows the gap between the bottom of the case and the bottom of the foot. The feet are only 1.625mm or 0.064". This 1 5/8 millimeter differential keep the bottom of the case off of whatever hard surface you put it on after the foot compresses, but not so much that the feet are obvious. (Note: If I find that the feet make the thickness of the non-compartmented Apex too fat, I may change the design to take thinner feet.)
So, what's next, after the models are finished?
Order 3D printed prototypes.
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I see where you guys are coming from. However, if I'm taking my chips outside the house, they will indeed be done in the birdcage if it has any type of locking mechanism on it, and has the card storage as he's described. That handle is so much easier to carry 1000 chips in than any other heavy aluminum case has been. I'm actually super-pumped to use a birdcage for travel and moving these rather than the shotty aluminum cases, and not quite as heavy duty pelican case.
So, hopefully it will be a well rounded, multi use case
IMO pelican style cases are bar none the best way to transport chips.
I believe you. But they aren't also the best way to store and display chips.
I would like to see if a well-designed birdcage would be able to do all three reasonably well. Not be the best performer at all three, but reasonably useful.
I would make it so those feet are easily removable. I have no desire to leave a permanent imprint mark on my table by accidentally leaving my bird cage on my table too long. Personally they are a solution looking for a problem. Felt bumpers are cheap and would do the same thing if people wanted to add them
No offense but if they aren't easily removable then my interest immediately will go to zero