Selling WSOP action (2 Viewers)

[Frogzilla]

No doubt I’ve flip flopped. Pretty sure it’s up to me how much I care, and that amount was 0. It was others’ actions that brought it back up.

I am 100% certain there was not a way for me to handle this that would’ve made the brigade team happy.

As for being sure it’s made right, we’re well past that. I don’t think it’s about money on either side, that’s not the meaningful part. I don’t think I’ve ever posted about other pcfers that never paid, but they also didn’t just drop off for years while knowingly ignoring me and attending pcf events.

My post was just a last ditch effort in hopes of not having it escalate. Again, I’ll get feedback before ever doing that, and still likely too afraid to do it anyways out of fear of blowback and do unto others.

I’m not sure what the generic PCF feedback would be these days. We’ve had quite a few scams, issues, proven lies, etc. on a bunch of different threads recently. Sometimes PCF thinks it’s a big deal, sometimes not.

Tl;dr - Idc about the money, at this point it’s come to light Nate is intentionally being a d*ck about it (imo) and I’m not cool with that sh*t.

I really doubt it would escalate if you just let it go

 

[Hornet]

Admittedly, I don’t know all of the facts here. But there’s a right way to handle things and there’s a wrong way. And we all know two wrongs don’t make a right. That is true regardless of the people involved and their past transgressions, whether accused or real.

 

[Saoliver]

I just figured he was ghosting you the way you ghosted so many here multiple times. But maybe I’m wrong. Maybe it’s something else. I don’t know.

 

[BarrieJ3]

I just figured he was ghosting you the way you ghosted so many here multiple times. But maybe I’m wrong. Maybe it’s something else. I don’t know.

It took you a whole 2 messages to get here, because it’s the only point you want to make. My guy, fuck off. For reals.

I twice had issues getting chips out because of actual mix ups before huge life events. They were a couple hundred bucks and a couple weeks wait. Multiple years ago. No ill intent, not on purpose. I did what I could at that time to fix it. Doesn’t make it better or right, but it is what it is, and absolutely nothing akin to this.

We have people scamming thousands of dollars, we have people repeatedly lying to 10s of chippers in group buys, there’s not any negative feedback sitewide for multiple people scamming/stealing from others - all of this being extremely recent/ongoing right now.

Strangely, I dont see you posting anywhere in those.

Grow the fuck up, your buddy is a shitty person on this exchange, as are you.

I’ll update Nate, I’ll tell him to thank you.

 

[Saoliver]

It took you a whole 2 messages to get here, because it’s the only point you want to make. My guy, fuck off. For reals.

I twice had issues getting chips out because of actual mix ups before huge life events. They were a couple hundred bucks and a couple weeks wait. Multiple years ago. No ill intent, not on purpose. I did what I could at that time to fix it. Doesn’t make it better or right, but it is what it is, and absolutely nothing akin to this.

We have people scamming thousands of dollars, we have people repeatedly lying to 10s of chippers in group buys, there’s not any negative feedback sitewide for multiple people scamming/stealing from others - all of this being extremely recent/ongoing right now.

Strangely, I dont see you posting anywhere in those.

Grow the fuck up, your buddy is a shitty person on this exchange, as are you.

I’ll update Nate, I’ll tell him to thank you.

Calm down. I’m on your side. I think you should get your chips back.

 

[BarrieJ3]

Calm down. I’m on your side. I think you should get your chips back.

Nah it’s all good mate. You can’t help yourself, I get it.

But you right, I shouldn’t be bumping this, y’all shouldn’t be dealing with this, I shouldn’t be either.

I messaged him, told him to let you know thanks, and gave him the timeline. In case he’s not receiving my messages for some reason, you should probably let him know too.

Thanks for the help Scott, definitely helped clear up the appropriate next steps for me!

 

[Frogzilla]

Gave him the timeline?

 

[Saoliver]

Nah it’s all good mate. You can’t help yourself, I get it.

But you right, I shouldn’t be bumping this, y’all shouldn’t be dealing with this, I shouldn’t be either.

I messaged him, told him to let you know thanks, and gave him the timeline. In case he’s not receiving my messages for some reason, you should probably let him know too.

Thanks for the help Scott, definitely helped clear up the appropriate next steps for me!

Glad to help you sort out your timeline, or threat, or whatever you are doing.

 

[doublebooyah85]

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Why is it funny that I got scammed $2500

 

[Silverwind]

Why is it funny that I got scammed $2500

Didn't say it was.
I was talking about Nate.

Did you buy some of his WSOP action?

 

[acezag]

Didn't say it was.
I was talking about Nate.

Did you buy some of his WSOP action?

Derp! Derp derp? Derp...

 

[acezag]

Glad to help you sort out your timeline, or threat, or whatever you are doing.

The horse that you and @Frogzilla were beating has long since turned to dust, became part of the geologic record, and was dug up by a group of archeology students several decades ago. Your stick is now hitting a 7-Eleven that was built on the site.

 

[Saoliver]

The horse that you and @Frogzilla were beating has long since turned to dust, became part of the geologic record, and was dug up by a group of archeology students several decades ago. Your stick is now hitting a 7-Eleven that was built on the site.

Who are you?

 

[acezag]

Who are you?

Acezag. It's over on the left, under the pretty pictures. You know, the things the keeper uses to let you know lunch is coming.

 

[Budha]

I personally think this whole thing is bullshit. I don’t have the full story and seems obvious there’s some inside baseball going on here.

Past transgressions aside, if he’s intentionally not paying just to prove some point, that’s bullshit. Pay the man his money or give the chips back - point made. (It’s a bit d-bagish at this stage)

 

[BarrieJ3]

I don’t think past transgressions have any part in this, that’s just Scott following me around on this site trying to misdirect.

I don’t actually know anything from Nate, I’ve posted the only response from Nate in the last year and a half.

I’ve had several other PCFers touch base with me.

Apparently amongst other things chips and over extending were points of contention at home, and my package arriving was the last straw of sorts. From what I gathered, my chip shipment may have gone hand in hand with the end of relationship for the household.

Idk, that’s complete heresay from a couple sources. Maybe there’s more, maybe there’s not. I have no doubt I’m missing something somewhere and will be blasted upon Nate’s return.

Idk how much more to the story there can be from the chipping side, when I’ve already provided exact timelines on dibs, messages, shipments, tracking, etc.

I just figured many moons ago I’d post, someone would ping him, he’d resolve. Not sure why this is still ongoing, not sure why this issue gives specific pcfers the right to continually come after me, not sure why there isn’t an issue with those folks.

But it is what it is. I don’t really engage much on PCF these days, generally if I’m posting it’s just trying to button things up.

 

[BarrieJ3]

FWIW, outside of dealing with Scott, I thought I mostly handled the issue with tact and patience (but admittedly I’m not the most self aware person on this rock).

I’m a naturally anxious/nervous dude, don’t love the negative attention, didn’t want to piss off someone with my address/personal information, etc. I have no interest in “going after” Nate, I just want it settled.

He knows about this, he’s in communication with several pcfers, I honestly 100% don’t have other info and don’t get it at this point.

 

[Saoliver]

FWIW, outside of dealing with Scott, I thought I mostly handled the issue with tact and patience (but admittedly I’m not the most self aware person on this rock).

I’m a naturally anxious/nervous dude, don’t love the negative attention, didn’t want to piss off someone with my address/personal information, etc. I have no interest in “going after” Nate, I just want it settled.

He knows about this, he’s in communication with several pcfers, I honestly 100% don’t have other info and don’t get it at this point.

FWIW, you made it sound like it was settled. In fact, you said it was settled. I don’t know why you’d say that and then come back and say it wasn’t settled. Weird.

I’m honestly surprised that it isn’t. I assumed Nate would have sent you YOUR chips back by now.

But I’ve enjoyed the trolling. I feel you deserve it, for a few reasons. You deserve the sweat… but you also deserve YOUR chips back. Hope you get them soon.

 

[Saoliver]

Acezag. It's over on the left, under the pretty pictures. You know, the things the keeper uses to let you know lunch is coming.

 

[BarrieJ3]

FWIW, you made it sound like it was settled. In fact, you said it was settled. I don’t know why you’d say that and then come back and say it wasn’t settled. Weird.

I’m honestly surprised that it isn’t. I assumed Nate would have sent you YOUR chips back by now.

But I’ve enjoyed the trolling. I feel you deserve it, for a few reasons. You deserve the sweat… but you also deserve YOUR chips back. Hope you get them soon.

You just keep saying the same things. You’ve been doing this for years on here now across various threads.

Spouting nonsense trying to sow discord, like your capitalizing of YOUR above. I nor anyone else have any clue what you’re trying to imply. Has he already sent them back or something and simply not said anything?

It’s bizarre. And then to leverage a friend’s situation with his divorce or whatever it is to go after me, or what you call “trolling”.

By my responses it obviously gets to me historically, or at the very least I find it annoying - albeit less and less through time. So I guess congrats on that big win Scott?

I enjoy dealing with your nonsense less and less, so I’ll attempt to try and close this with Nate even faster, although granted I’m at a loss on that.

 

[BamaT8ter]

Admittedly, I don’t know all of the facts here. But there’s a right way to handle things and there’s a wrong way. And we all know two wrongs don’t make a right. That is true regardless of the people involved and their past transgressions, whether accused or real.

Three rights make a left though, right?

 

[dpeks13]

 

[Lil Tuna]

 

[CraigT78]

Three rights make a left though, right?

UPS certainly thinks so.

 

[Frogzilla]

The horse that you and @Frogzilla were beating has long since turned to dust, became part of the geologic record, and was dug up by a group of archeology students several decades ago. Your stick is now hitting a 7-Eleven that was built on the site.

I like what I like

And I like this thread

 

[Lil Tuna]

Acezag. It's over on the left, under the pretty pictures. You know, the things the keeper uses to let you know lunch is coming.

 

[BarrieJ3]

Lolz, I’m sorry this specific scam/nonpayment is boring and not spicy like the others.

Originally I was posting to bring attention to the issue in hopes of that helping get it resolved, and more recently in hopes of getting potential insight/feedback.

In that regard I’ll attempt to ignore the brigadiers, but I am looking for feedback.

• There’s no missing info I’m aware of.
• The guy knows he owes me money, attended meetup(s), is in contact with pcfers, and accidentally answered one of my phone calls.
• This is the only communication I’ve received from him in the year and a half (from a month+ ago):

I understand @JMC9389 response of chalk it up to a loss, but that seems strange since it’s not a full scam/guy disappeared overseas/etc. situation.

Outside of regular PMs, FB PMs, texts, and phone calls, I’ve now replied to him on LinkedIn and messaged his brother (I think).

I don’t think these are egregious messages or cross a boundary per se, although I’m very uneasy going outside of PCF to try and resolve this.

Given that Nate knows about this thread, is actively ignoring/ghosting me, is in contact with PCFers, etc., is the consensus that it’s okay to continue down this path of outreach, or is there an unwritten rule that what happens on PCF stays on PCF? Is there a certain threshold of $ or time where it’s okay to use more pointed outreach mentioning the debt (eg if someone owed say $5k or it was 2 years past due)?

It seems like we’re missing some huge piece of the puzzle, but I have no clue what it is nor why Nate wouldn’t just message it to me, or one of the pcfers he communicates with.

I understand my reputation grows worse every time I post in this thread and the longer this goes on, but I’m in uncharted territory in a bizarre situation and looking for feedback (not pitchforks).

 

[Jacks]

Lolz, I’m sorry this specific scam/nonpayment is boring and not spicy like the others.

Originally I was posting to bring attention to the issue in hopes of that helping get it resolved, and more recently in hopes of getting potential insight/feedback.

In that regard I’ll attempt to ignore the brigadiers, but I am looking for feedback.

• There’s no missing info I’m aware of.
• The guy knows he owes me money, attended meetup(s), is in contact with pcfers, and accidentally answered one of my phone calls.
• This is the only communication I’ve received from him in the year and a half (from a month+ ago):

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I understand @JMC9389 response of chalk it up to a loss, but that seems strange since it’s not a full scam/guy disappeared overseas/etc. situation.

Outside of regular PMs, FB PMs, texts, and phone calls, I’ve now replied to him on LinkedIn and messaged his brother (I think).

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I don’t think these are egregious messages or cross a boundary per se, although I’m very uneasy going outside of PCF to try and resolve this.

Given that Nate knows about this thread, is actively ignoring/ghosting me, is in contact with PCFers, etc., is the consensus that it’s okay to continue down this path of outreach, or is there an unwritten rule that what happens on PCF stays on PCF? Is there a certain threshold of $ or time where it’s okay to use more pointed outreach mentioning the debt (eg if someone owed say $5k or it was 2 years past due)?

It seems like we’re missing some huge piece of the puzzle, but I have no clue what it is nor why Nate wouldn’t just message it to me, or one of the pcfers he communicates with.

I understand my reputation grows worse every time I post in this thread and the longer this goes on, but I’m in uncharted territory in a bizarre situation and looking for feedback (not pitchforks).

Idk man, the mention about possibly contacting his employer sounds like a vague threat. To me if you’re going to go this route, just take him to small claims court instead of potentially messing with his employment.

 

[BarrieJ3]

Idk man, the mention about possibly contacting his employer sounds like a vague threat. To me if you’re going to go this route, just take him to small claims court instead of potentially messing with his employment.

(100% agreed)

No, I just meant like trying to get him on the phone.

Like, “hey can I speak to Nate” so I can ask him what’s happening. lol not like, talking to his actual employer. That sounds a bit cray cray, we’ve seen that here before too.

$1200 isn’t worth this much stress, I just don’t like the precedent that pcfers on behalf of a friend can nonstop attack someone into dropping it and walking away. More principle than money.

 

[Saoliver]

Lolz, I’m sorry this specific scam/nonpayment is boring and not spicy like the others.

Originally I was posting to bring attention to the issue in hopes of that helping get it resolved, and more recently in hopes of getting potential insight/feedback.

In that regard I’ll attempt to ignore the brigadiers, but I am looking for feedback.

• There’s no missing info I’m aware of.
• The guy knows he owes me money, attended meetup(s), is in contact with pcfers, and accidentally answered one of my phone calls.
• This is the only communication I’ve received from him in the year and a half (from a month+ ago):

View attachment 1569232

I understand @JMC9389 response of chalk it up to a loss, but that seems strange since it’s not a full scam/guy disappeared overseas/etc. situation.

Outside of regular PMs, FB PMs, texts, and phone calls, I’ve now replied to him on LinkedIn and messaged his brother (I think).

View attachment 1569233
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I don’t think these are egregious messages or cross a boundary per se, although I’m very uneasy going outside of PCF to try and resolve this.

Given that Nate knows about this thread, is actively ignoring/ghosting me, is in contact with PCFers, etc., is the consensus that it’s okay to continue down this path of outreach, or is there an unwritten rule that what happens on PCF stays on PCF? Is there a certain threshold of $ or time where it’s okay to use more pointed outreach mentioning the debt (eg if someone owed say $5k or it was 2 years past due)?

It seems like we’re missing some huge piece of the puzzle, but I have no clue what it is nor why Nate wouldn’t just message it to me, or one of the pcfers he communicates with.

I understand my reputation grows worse every time I post in this thread and the longer this goes on, but I’m in uncharted territory in a bizarre situation and looking for feedback (not pitchforks).

He doesn’t owe you money, dude. He does owe you the return of your chips.