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Hey i am a new member and i am in need of help starting my poker room...
Im looking for chips and a table w/ dealer cut out but don't know where to find good quality that wont break the bank .
For now i will be looking to start a 5-5 home game any one know how many chips i should have to be comfortable and not run out of chips ?
Also how much did a start up of someone who has already done one before cost ?
What miscellaneous stuff will come up ?
Any one with experience or knowledge of a start up home game will help.
looking forward to the comments ! Btw from ny if that helps
 
600 chips in a careful breakdown should cover a 10 person cash game. Max 8 can probably be done with 500. You just need to determine your bank needs for your biggest night and typical initial buy in.
 
Do you have an approximate budget you are looking to work within? That can help determine appropriate recommendations.
 
Hey i am a new member and i am in need of help starting my poker room...
Im looking for chips and a table w/ dealer cut out but don't know where to find good quality that wont break the bank .
For now i will be looking to start a 5-5 home game any one know how many chips i should have to be comfortable and not run out of chips ?
Also how much did a start up of someone who has already done one before cost ?
What miscellaneous stuff will come up ?
Any one with experience or knowledge of a start up home game will help.
looking forward to the comments ! Btw from ny if that helps
Other things that you may need to look out for are comfortable chairs. Often available on Craigslist, you'll see matching sets of high quality chairs go for fairly cheap. You'll want to have a few extra card setups handy. Get a concensus of what people like (jumbo or standard index) and hunt down a deal on about 10 or so decks. Drink carts or even those wooden TV trays so people keep their drinks away from the table. Also, determine how people will be fed. If you're raking the home game, buying the food will go a looong way in keeping your players happy.
 
I'd say 500 would be plenty. Breakdown depends on how wild the game gets, but I've been running a pretty wild single table 5-5 game for over a decade and the absolute max I've had in chips on the table was 22-23k and there's a long way down to #2. That game had 13 or 14 participants and was a drunken stupor even rock stars would call legendary.
I'd suggest;
5 x 100
25 x 200
100 x 200
Total: 25.500

This is my default if I go for a new chipset. If you suspect really wild games, change a barrel or two with 500 chips.

My most successful purchases based on my players were ShuffleTech shuffle (so they don't have to pass the deck/shuffle) and comfy chairs. I've spent loads more on both table and chips but they don't care about that. Even playing on a coffee table is fine by them as long as they sit comfortably, so as a starter it should be your main concern.

That being said, all players love a poker table - especially a good table. A wobbly poker table is worse than a kitchen table. Almost no-one cares about the chips. :( Or cards, as long as they're not paper (then they won't last the night).
 
600 chips in a careful breakdown should cover a 10 person cash game. Max 8 can probably be done with 500. You just need to determine your bank needs for your biggest night and typical initial buy in.
i think i might need more than 600. If i got lets say 9 people who each buy in for 500$. 100 chips per player would quickly add up to 900 (5$ Chips) what if some one wants to buy back in? Maybe i could add some 25$ denominations.

Go to @T_Chan for the table. He is the resident miracle worker.
Does he make them with a dealer cut out ? & shuffler installed ?

Thank you will check it out now.

Do you have an approximate budget you are looking to work within? That can help determine appropriate recommendations.
From my own research ive been doing it seem like 5k+ give or take for the whole room to be set up. i.e tvs table snacks chips chairs ect

Other things that you may need to look out for are comfortable chairs. Often available on Craigslist, you'll see matching sets of high quality chairs go for fairly cheap. You'll want to have a few extra card setups handy. Get a concensus of what people like (jumbo or standard index) and hunt down a deal on about 10 or so decks. Drink carts or even those wooden TV trays so people keep their drinks away from the table. Also, determine how people will be fed. If you're raking the home game, buying the food will go a looong way in keeping your players happy.
Ok what would be a good rake amount if i did decide to do that ? 5-5... Do people want just new cards to switch up or do they have to be professional cards?

I'd say 500 would be plenty. Breakdown depends on how wild the game gets, but I've been running a pretty wild single table 5-5 game for over a decade and the absolute max I've had in chips on the table was 22-23k and there's a long way down to #2. That game had 13 or 14 participants and was a drunken stupor even rock stars would call legendary.
I'd suggest;
5 x 100
25 x 200
100 x 200
Total: 25.500

This is my default if I go for a new chipset. If you suspect really wild games, change a barrel or two with 500 chips.

My most successful purchases based on my players were ShuffleTech shuffle (so they don't have to pass the deck/shuffle) and comfy chairs. I've spent loads more on both table and chips but they don't care about that. Even playing on a coffee table is fine by them as long as they sit comfortably, so as a starter it should be your main concern.

That being said, all players love a poker table - especially a good table. A wobbly poker table is worse than a kitchen table. Almost no-one cares about the chips. :( Or cards, as long as they're not paper (then they won't last the night
When i go to card games i usually see everyone w 5$ chips which quickly adds up to at least 900 chips to start( 500$ per player ). For some reason i think they like the 5$ ones better because they want to building bigger stacks and it just looks like more i may be wrong ? But i would be saving money with the bigger denominations right ? Do you also run any High Hands, Progressive, or Bomb Pots ? Alslo do you track the player buy ins? Do you extend credit ? If so how has it worked for you ? How much was your shuffle tech ? Lots of questions but you have a decade more experience so you might have the insight im looking for ?

THANK YOU FOR ALL THE COMMENTS SO FAR !
 
When i go to card games i usually see everyone w 5$ chips which quickly adds up to at least 900 chips to start( 500$ per player ). For some reason i think they like the 5$ ones better because they want to building bigger stacks and it just looks like more i may be wrong ? But i would be saving money with the bigger denominations right ? Do you also run any High Hands, Progressive, or Bomb Pots ? Alslo do you track the player buy ins? Do you extend credit ? If so how has it worked for you ? How much was your shuffle tech ? Lots of questions but you have a decade more experience so you might have the insight im looking for ?

THANK YOU FOR ALL THE COMMENTS SO FAR !
While people enjoy sitting with WSOP sized chip-mountains in front of them, it's anything but practical. Assuming your players aren't pros, there's a few things you want to balance;
# of chips - This isn't the place to say this buy you don't want too many chips on the table if you can avoid it. It will take players forever to put the correct number out
# of denoms - I try to limit it it to 2 or 3, but this contradicts the first point. The reasoning is the same, too many denoms takes too much time for the player to bet.
So with more (higher) denoms you can get fewer chips. It will also be less frustrating when someone has to call 265 in 5s and counts them in piles of 10(!). I also suggest chips with denoms on them, although it makes them less flexible.

I don't rake (it's a home game) and I don't do jackpots or similar (which would have to come from the rake). We do start off with a tournament league, where I take a portion of the buy in to the league pot and you get points based on where you end up and the number of players.

As for buyins, never ever credit anyone ever, including your dying dad, your best friend for 30+ years, etc. The only upside you can get from this is slightly more convenient reload, while the downside is massive, where in the end you either lose money, a friend or both. Over time, this is as guaranteed to happen as AA losing to 23o, given enough boards. I (eventually) have stopped lending cash to players, even life long friends. Once in a while they take months to pay me back (high score is over 2 years to pay back ~$150), some never paid and broke off contact. It's not uncommon situation for someone to claim e.g. "No, this isn't the 7th buy ins, are you nuts?! It was 4 at most!" even though they verbally agreed to it being 6 an hour earlier, or they claim it's rigged and refuse to pay. The last 2 haven't happen to me, but you can read about those situations here.
If the players don't have cash, we have a local app for instant bank transfer and if they're broke they can ask other players to lend them. If they don't want to, it's hardly anyone's fault but the broke player.
I've been through all the pains of this and there are only huge hassles and problems and maybe a tiny upside if any by lending good friends money/credit at the table.

ShuffleTech is about $600 I think, if you can get one but I wouldn't recommend it. It breaks down easily and they have a frustrating (lack of) customer service, so save your money.

Finally, the biggest gain you can get as a host is to bone up on Robert's Rules of Poker (cash) and Tournament Director rule book(s). Also read ruling questions here and on 2+2 for situations and other people's rulings. This will make you much better at avoiding many of those situations and rule on them, if need. Make rulings based on rules, not what you think/feel. If you point to a specific rule in RRoP or TDA, no one will argue against it.
 
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While people enjoy sitting with WSOP sized chip-mountains in front of them, it's anything but practical. Assuming your players aren't pros, there's a few things you want to balance;
# of chips - This isn't the place to say this buy you don't want too many chips on the table if you can avoid it. It will take players forever to put the correct number out
# of denoms - I try to limit it it to 2 or 3, but this contradicts the first point. The reasoning is the same, too many denoms takes too much time for the player to bet.
So with more (higher) denoms you can get fewer chips. It will also be less frustrating when someone has to call 265 in 5s and counts them in piles of 10(!). I also suggest chips with denoms on them, although it makes them less flexible.

I don't rake (it's a home game) and I don't do jackpots or similar (which would have to come from the rake). We do start off with a tournament league, where I take a portion of the buy in to the league pot and you get points based on where you end up and the number of players.

As for buyins, never ever credit anyone ever, including your dying dad, your best friend for 30+ years, etc. The only upside you can get from this is slightly more convenient reload, while the downside is massive, where in the end you either lose money, a friend or both. Over time, this is as guaranteed to happen as AA losing to 23o, given enough boards. I (eventually) have stopped lending cash to players, even life long friends. Once in a while they take months to pay me back (high score is over 2 years to pay back ~$150), some never paid and broke off contact. It's not uncommon situation for someone to claim e.g. "No, this isn't the 7th buy ins, are you nuts?! It was 4 at most!" even though they verbally agreed to it being 6 an hour earlier, or they claim it's rigged and refuse to pay. The last 2 haven't happen to me, but you can read about those situations here.
If the players don't have cash, we have a local app for instant bank transfer and if they're broke they can ask other players to lend them. If they don't want to, it's hardly anyone's fault but the broke player.
I've been through all the pains of this and there are only huge hassles and problems and maybe a tiny upside if any by lending good friends money/credit at the table.

ShuffleTech is about $600 I think, if you can get one but I wouldn't recommend it. It breaks down easily and they have a frustrating (lack of) customer service, so save your money.

Finally, the biggest gain you can get as a host is to bone up on Robert's Rules of Poker (cash) and Tournament Director rule book(s). Also read ruling questions here and on 2+2 for situations and other people's rulings. This will make you much better at avoiding many of those situations and rule on them, if need. Make rulings based on rules, not what you think/feel. If you point to a specific rule in RRoP or TDA, no one will argue against it.
Thank you for your detailed reply ! I think I will go the way of not lending credit I can’t lose that way it would be really frustrating to put trust in a player that he will pay me back out my neck on the line for them to get F***** in the end. Any good quality card name brands you use ? Do you supply any snacks drinks pay per view events etc? If so do they chip in for it or you just do it ? Any good table makers or suppliers you can point me to ? What’s one problem you had that you never thought would pop up ? Also is cpc Chips any good ?
 
I'm not a cards guy, so I bought a set of 6 red Copaq decks, and 6 blue. That way, when a card gets a dent or similar, I just replace that single card. I think I bought them 7-8 years ago and have more than half left. Bear in mind that we only play once a month so there might be more durable cards out there. I'll let more competent people answer on cards, but KEM is another big brand. But there's many good ones out there.

I only supply liquor because I used to travel abroad a lot, and would pick up cheap booze (booze in Norway is stupid expensive), but the pretext was that we're a bunch of friends that enjoys whiskey and rom so someone brings a bottle every now and then. Now I'm the only one suppling it. Once in a blue moon someone brings something.

Players bring their own beer, snack, frozen pizza. Sometimes they order something, but usually they just heat up a frozen pizza. Every blue moon I buy some hotdogs from the local butcher and offer it for free. Soda and coffee is offered for free as they can get pretty drunk so I encourage that. :)

There's rarely any PPV events here, but football (the proper one, not the handegg type) is popular and often requested. Then we just one of the player's streaming subscription. It's a bit annoying as I have a hard enough time getting them to pay attention without the TV. Some guys wait until it's their turn to tell a story, because then everyone is waiting for him to act and he has full attention... Yeah, we don't have many hands per hour...

So that might be my biggest problem that I didn't expect, players not paying attention and the poker being sort of the backdrop of the evening.
Other issue is player to player debt, where they try to involve me in either outright covering the debt (!) or ask me to press for payment. That was back when I did credit players, and was part of the reason why it stopped. These days, it never happens but they do try to get me to mediate some deal or try to involve me. It's a slippery slope so I never do. Also, in Norway, the law says you don't have to pay your gambling debt (in an effort to discourage it) so it has to be handled delicately. If some one plays that card or flat out says they're not going to pay their debt, they won't be allowed back until the debt is settled, other wise I don't interfere. The reason for this, is to avoid the drama of having a guy owing people money having a good run and still refusing to pay their debt(s). Add alcohol to that mix and you might risk physical confrontation.

(Also, if someone in their tilt rage threatens someone (this almost never ever happens), and some other party starts mouthing of, which can happen with bruised egos + alcohol, they expect me to break it off before it gets serious. Since I'm parenting these guys enough, I don't bother. I simply tell them that if they wanna fight, they have to cash out, leaving the building and settle it outside. Since the cops can appear pretty fast here (lots of bars close by), they better keep their mouths shut or both will be banned if I get a single cop on the door. The realization of actually having to fight, not play anymore poker that night, possibly at all, staggers this behavior pretty fast. Also, if one guy do win the fight before the cops come, he can't really guarantee that the loser won't spill his guts to the cops and they're still banned. If a guy doesn't want to fight, he can disarm it by saying "Sure, go ahead first, I'll come down in 10 minutes." and the aggressor realizes that he could be stuck outside like an idiot. If they actually do wanna fight, there's not much I can do other than damage control. This still hasn't happened though, and I think I've only used that "card" once. 30-60 minutes later and its apologies and hugs all around. This is a situation you have to prepare for, doesn't really matter how, but don't let it simmer. Squash it one way or the other, or it really breaks the mood at the table and most people finds it uncomfortable to be around two people at each others throat.)
 
Oh and chips! Heh, forgot the most important thing! I love CPC chips, but they do have long turnaround time now. Expect 4-12+ months waiting before you get them, depending on the mold and planned production run.
I have 1300+ CPC set as my cash chips, and 500 for tournament. I prefer Paulsons, but I prefer custom chips over Paulson. I'm currently in the thought process of making "custom Paulsons" by replacing the inlay (label) with my own. It won't be as good as factory Paulson, but I've seen good results here, so it might be worth investigating.

You might want to go for some mid-range, cheaper chips until you get the game going with a good crowd before you invest too much money in Paulsons/CPC. Custom CPCs seldom have a very high re-sell value, same with "murdered" Paulsons (inlay removed) but not as bad. Untouched Paulsons should get you market prices if the game fails.
 
i think i might need more than 600. If i got lets say 9 people who each buy in for 500$. 100 chips per player would quickly add up to 900 (5$ Chips) what if some one wants to buy back in? Maybe i could add some 25$ denominations.

You don't need 100 chips per player of all the same denomination unless you're playing limit.

In order to spend money efficiently, you need just as many chips to cover your bank in several denominations.

Let's just say, for argument's sake, that you've got 10 players for your 5/5 NLHE cash game, initial buy-in $500, and you need enough extra bank to cover on average 1 extra buy in for each person. So your total bank needs is $10,000.

A 600-chip breakdown could be:
300x $5
200x $25
80x $100
20x $500 (capstone) - replace with $100s if you don't want it
Total bank: $24500 (or $16500 without the capstone)
Starting stack: 30 x$5 and 14x $25 for each player, first 3 rebuys done with 20x $25, all others with 5x $100, with change made between players as needed.

You can get away with even less chips if you get fewer $5s and more $25s.
 
Yeah I get that. That means I could cut chip cost in half. Appreciate the breakdown man will deff look into it. Kinda just thought people like seeing big piles of chips ( I Know I Do ) but still at the end of the day it’s more about cost efficiency.
 
I started with 500 chips and added on over time. Totally not needed but I wanted more chips on the table so I bought more 25 chips. I was also worried 44mm chips wouldn't be produced any more (false alarm) so I ordered 300 1000 and 5000 chips. And I've used a handful of 500 chips once and have a rack of them. Well, who knows what inflation rate will be in 10-15 years, right?
 
How many chips depends on table stakes. my typical PLO game ppl have anywhere from 40 - 150 5$ cheques. As well as up to 40 in green and 10 in black. (chip counts) typically 9 handed.

Are you taking a rake? You better have free food (not pizza), quality coffee, and snacks (ice cream), also accommodate player requests. Not sure I would offer alcohol.

Security is also a factor, make sure your location is safe. On the other side you don't want shady characters in your home either. You'll need some side tables for food and drink.

Credit, its a funny thing, I would at least wait about 2-3 months before giving out credit. Its a balance to understanding that you don't want to give out more than the player can handle or you're willing to write off. Hard to tell a guy that shows up every week and drops 1000, you can't loan him a couple hundred.

Do you really know the rules of the game you're playing? What happens when some one misses a small blind but not the big blind? What happens when the dealer pre flops the flop prior to all players calling? Buy this book its a written reference for your players.

Is the dealer dealing for cash tips or are you paying an hourly rate? do you really want < 1$ chips in game? does the dealer? how much will it slow the game down? Do they know how to keep the game going? Does the dealer know how to rake?

How many times do you need to shuffle to be considered 'randomized' deck? How do you operate the shuffler? (push 3 to retrieve the cards) Do you allow side bets at the table? Do you let ppl run it twice, or do you let players offer insurance?

Are you going to play with a Kill, a straddle, what positions, bomb pots, what's the blind structure, 2 blinds, 3? Are you running the game solo? Smoking or non smoking? Can the bathroom handle the up take? Did you buy extra soap? how often do you plan to wash the chips? Do you have a chess board for that sweet pre game action?

There are a 1001 things, just trying to get you thinking... It'll be a wild time
 
Ok what would be a good rake amount if i did decide to do that ? 5-5... Do people want just new cards to switch up or do they have to be professional cards?

Only rake the game if everyone is going to be cool with it and you have a dedicated dealer (who's not also playing). Also, it is technically illegal to rake a home game in most states. $5/ hand for every pot over $50 is legit. No flop, no drop.

For cards, you usually can't go wrong with Copag. They're easy to come by and ok quality. Just don't get paper cards. Check out the Cards section of this forum for more options. People want cards that are durable and don't get bent or marked easily. You'd really only need to switch them if a card became damaged, which one inevitably will, so have some spare sets on hand.
 
Most rakes are 1 on 20 max of 5, 10, or 15 (cry) depending on stakes. You'd give the dealer 40 whites to start off with to make change on smaller pots, 60 would be a 3 rake and 2 whites would go back in. later in the night you would take the 8 red and get more white out for the tray. Typically this is set up on the left side of the tray where as tips are on the right. This 'change' should always balance. Most of the time the dealer will trade White tips for red, and that cycles the white back in which can be used to restock the 'change' section, this is where a dealer that knows what they are doing can really help out.
 
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Yeah I get that. That means I could cut chip cost in half. Appreciate the breakdown man will deff look into it. Kinda just thought people like seeing big piles of chips ( I Know I Do ) but still at the end of the day it’s more about cost efficiency.
You are absolutely allowed to buy A Ton Of Chips so that people have Big Piles Of Chips on the table. Just know that more chips means more cost.

PCF-recommended breakdowns are aimed at a sweet spot where you have enough chips to efficiently make change and cover a reasonably-sized bank but not have to buy more chips than necessary. By buying fewer chips, you can spend your budget on nicer chips. But who defines "necessary"? You do! You can get a smaller-than-recommended set to support fewer players and do a lot of change-making if that's what you want, and you can get a larger-than-recommended set with lots of workhorses to get that mountain of chips effect if that's what you want. It's up to you.
 
Oh and chips! Heh, forgot the most important thing! I love CPC chips, but they do have long turnaround time now. Expect 4-12+ months waiting before you get them, depending on the mold and planned production run.
I have 1300+ CPC set as my cash chips, and 500 for tournament. I prefer Paulsons, but I prefer custom chips over Paulson. I'm currently in the thought process of making "custom Paulsons" by replacing the inlay (label) with my own. It won't be as good as factory Paulson, but I've seen good results here, so it might be worth investigating.

You might want to go for some mid-range, cheaper chips until you get the game going with a good crowd before you invest too much money in Paulsons/CPC. Custom CPCs seldom have a very high re-sell value, same with "murdered" Paulsons (inlay removed) but not as bad. Untouched Paulsons should get you market prices if the game fails.
12 months geeez! I was Looking into them yesterday. How about the majestic or dunes do you have any experience with those ? They look nice and sound nice but never actually held them just saw videos.i would definitely want to customize a set in the future with my own inlay I already have a designer for it. I’ve never heard about that law also never been to norway they must really hate gambling to say that.lol
 
The law is actually from early 1900s, but yeah - they do hate it.

I think I had some Dunes samples, I assume you mean the china clays? They look and sound quite good so good value for money but they are light and plastic-y. Search forums for the chips you're interested or just start a new thread here asking people. There's so much knowledge here, it's stupid. And they're quite helpful. The first rule to learn with chips is "Get samples!", you'll get that a lot. And you should. It has saved me lots of money at least.

Buying some cheap china clays (assuming they're still available?) is a good starting point, then you can use those while you wait for Jim in The Chip Room to get his hands on a load of paulson casino chips and you can't really go wrong there. But like I said, get some samples before that happens. When one of Jim's sales start, you have seconds to get the chips you want...
They happen whenever a casino closes down, or re-brand, so there's no regular interval here.
 
Only rake the game if everyone is going to be cool with it and you have a dedicated dealer (who's not also playing). Also, it is technically illegal to rake a home game in most states. $5/ hand for every pot over $50 is legit. No flop, no drop.

For cards, you usually can't go wrong with Copag. They're easy to come by and ok quality. Just don't get paper cards. Check out the Cards section of this forum for more options. People want cards that are durable and don't get bent or marked easily. You'd really only need to switch them if a card became damaged, which one inevitably will, so have some spare sets on hand.
Gotcha think i will go with the copag. They've been mentioned to me a few times.
 
The law is actually from early 1900s, but yeah - they do hate it.

I think I had some Dunes samples, I assume you mean the china clays? They look and sound quite good so good value for money but they are light and plastic-y. Search forums for the chips you're interested or just start a new thread here asking people. There's so much knowledge here, it's stupid. And they're quite helpful. The first rule to learn with chips is "Get samples!", you'll get that a lot. And you should. It has saved me lots of money at least.

Buying some cheap china clays (assuming they're still available?) is a good starting point, then you can use those while you wait for Jim in The Chip Room to get his hands on a load of paulson casino chips and you can't really go wrong there. But like I said, get some samples before that happens. When one of Jim's sales start, you have seconds to get the chips you want...
They happen whenever a casino closes down, or re-brand, so there's no regular interval here.
Yes the china clays im referring to. Gotcha can i set a post notification for when he has availaible ? Do the dunes feel slippery? ive heard someone mention it. SO far everybody has been super helpful on just this post alone and also pm's. Everybody seems to want to share there knowledge they have without a problem. I like that.
 
How many chips depends on table stakes. my typical PLO game ppl have anywhere from 40 - 150 5$ cheques. As well as up to 40 in green and 10 in black. (chip counts) typically 9 handed.

Are you taking a rake? You better have free food (not pizza), quality coffee, and snacks (ice cream), also accommodate player requests. Not sure I would offer alcohol.

Security is also a factor, make sure your location is safe. On the other side you don't want shady characters in your home either. You'll need some side tables for food and drink.

Credit, its a funny thing, I would at least wait about 2-3 months before giving out credit. Its a balance to understanding that you don't want to give out more than the player can handle or you're willing to write off. Hard to tell a guy that shows up every week and drops 1000, you can't loan him a couple hundred.

Do you really know the rules of the game you're playing? What happens when some one misses a small blind but not the big blind? What happens when the dealer pre flops the flop prior to all players calling? Buy this book its a written reference for your players.

Is the dealer dealing for cash tips or are you paying an hourly rate? do you really want < 1$ chips in game? does the dealer? how much will it slow the game down? Do they know how to keep the game going? Does the dealer know how to rake?

How many times do you need to shuffle to be considered 'randomized' deck? How do you operate the shuffler? (push 3 to retrieve the cards) Do you allow side bets at the table? Do you let ppl run it twice, or do you let players offer insurance?

Are you going to play with a Kill, a straddle, what positions, bomb pots, what's the blind structure, 2 blinds, 3? Are you running the game solo? Smoking or non smoking? Can the bathroom handle the up take? Did you buy extra soap? how often do you plan to wash the chips? Do you have a chess board for that sweet pre game action?

There are a 1001 things, just trying to get you thinking... It'll be a wild time
OK so I've Defiantly been thinking about location i want people to feel safe and comfortable. I want a spot that also has accessible parking being that i would have at least 15 people at a time. This is probably my hardest challenge. Comes down to my neighbors, parking, space, monthly cost, Ect.

As for credit i don't think i will be extending credit because the only thing that can come out of it is me getting stuck money owed. I understand that people will want it but i will establish that from the beginning. Or if so I would say ask somebody to loan you it and you pay them back or something.

Thanks for the reference on the book will be ordering it tonight!

As for the dealer i will find an ex-Casino dealer i know of a few already so they will know how things are run. For pay if you have experience what did you choose and how did it work out ? I was kind leaning towards pay by tips I've seen some post say they could make 300+ that way.

I would want to take rake because that's what will fund my game and pay for food, snacks, tv, hostess, etc. or else ill just be providing a table and chips lol

To keep people incentivized and stuff i was thinking taking 5$ a pot till i real 500$ and award the highest hand within that time. Also every hour on the hour i would want to run a double board bomb pot(25$). Keep the game fun and alive. Blinds will be 5-5 I'm not sure if i want 1$ chips but idk because who wants to tips 5$ for every single pot or waiter bringing them a water.

I want to create and atmosphere with the players so they want to come there. So they look forward to start time of the game to just get away from what ever there going through.

Also need to find trust worthy and non shady players!
 
I can't really remember if they were slippery or not, and I sold the samples (along with other samples) a few months ago. I'm sure there are several here that can answer that for you, or just search the forum for china clay dunes.

As for your game, it would be depend on your state laws, but it sounds like a borderline underground game at best. Rake and professional dealers, waiters, etc. will be hard to define as home game in any state's definition I think. Do you have a player base ready, or will you advertise on FB, Craigs list, etc? That's a security issue.

Realized that I forgot to link to RRoP, here's the latest edition I've found: http://www.gottatalkpoker.com/rrp/RobertsRules.pdf

Good luck! :)
 
I can't really remember if they were slippery or not, and I sold the samples (along with other samples) a few months ago. I'm sure there are several here that can answer that for you, or just search the forum for china clay dunes.

As for your game, it would be depend on your state laws, but it sounds like a borderline underground game at best. Rake and professional dealers, waiters, etc. will be hard to define as home game in any state's definition I think. Do you have a player base ready, or will you advertise on FB, Craigs list, etc? That's a security issue.

Realized that I forgot to link to RRoP, here's the latest edition I've found: http://www.gottatalkpoker.com/rrp/RobertsRules.pdf

Good luck! :)
my player base with be friends and friends of friends. I will do my best to keep a tight nit game. Thanks for the rule book ! Thaanks for all the info man you've been great !
 
15 people means 2 tables of $5/5. That is a lot of money on the table with a lot of people that know about it. Running that size game means you shouldn’t be playing in it as well unless it is to prop the game in the beginning or end of the night.

starting out I would recommend 1 table only. Get your feet wet and get a feel for the players and how you want to run things. Once you have done that for several months then you could think about expanding to tables.

Don’t buy any cheap China Clay that anyone can search for and get from a website in 10 minutes. It will be tempting for someone to sneak some chips in.

custom ceramics are under $1 each, especially with a volume discount that you would get if you end running two tables.
 

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