Hosting duties at someone else's game? (1 Viewer)

Is it my obligation to get a game together?

  • Yes

    Votes: 4 10.8%
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    Votes: 33 89.2%

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mashoo

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Hello all, feel free to skip to the tldr; lol

I've been running a game in my household for several years now. I'd like to think I run a fun filled action game and good amenities. I've CPC chips, Design cards, table built by Tony, drink carts, well stocked bar, etc. The game has been evolved with all the players coming from my place of employment. There's been a couple other people at work who've tried to run games to compete as well but those have died out and my game has been the most consistent throughout the years. I've only had to cancel a handful of times due to the winter weather conditions in my city. I'm proud of what I've built and how I run my game. I deal the entire time while playing, to keep up pace of play to my standards and let the players enjoy themselves.

Earlier this year, Feb I believe, a player (Jake) asked if I can help him host a game because his wife bought him a folding poker table and he wanted to use his gift. He's a good friend so I helped organize the players, brought my chips, cards, bank and basically ran my game in his place. Fun times, no issues there.

Beginning of the month, Jake and I were talking and he said he wanted to host a game at the end of Nov. I said cool, I've a game at the beginning of the month and you can host the end of the month so no conflicts of player pool. Jake texted me said poker night is on the 28th and asked if I was working. I told him I was but only until 2200 so I could come after, but I'll try to get rid of my shift as well. I told him to do his thing and if the 28th works for him, I'll be there regardless.

Now here is where I am might be in my own head lol. Am I under an obligation to help Jake host the game and get the players together? He has not asked for help but I get the feeling since I've been hosting for years, that I'd auto do it. I feel that since he is the host, I will accept his invite to play but will not dig into the list of players he has, or doesn't have.

On one hand, I don't mind texting players and getting a group together for the night. I know how much work goes into hosting and getting players together can be hard sometimes.

On the other hand, it's not my game. I've hosted for years, I put in the work and run my game in the best way I believe. I'd like to just show up and not have to organize the list, the chips, cards , deal etc. For once I'd like to be just a player in the game. For these reasons, illogical or not, I'd rather just work my shift and show up after to play. Is this selfish?

tldr; friend is hosting a game, am I obligated to help since I've been hosting for years.
 
Not your "obligation", but still very nice of you, if you can do it.
I mean you 'll do it, unless you can't attend anyway. :)
Eversince I bought high-end chips, I know I 'll be the chips-provider and banker in any friend's home.:D
 
I would definitely discuss it with your buddy first.

Having said that, and having done this before, it is going to boil down to how much you feel comfortable committing to the process. If the game is going to suck so hard as to be unbearable for you if you don't do all the work, well then do all the work or don't play. If the game is going to run fine without your input, then at least you have the choice of your commitment level.

I don't host, but I have a group of "tourney friends" who don't have a clue about poker. Every game I play with them I bring chips (unlabelled Nexgens), and a couple decks of paper cards because "plastic cards suck". I do not try to randomize seating because "what's your problem - you think we're trying to cheat?" and the idea of a cut card has also fallen by the wayside for the same reason. If I let my full OCD about such things flow, I would never play with these guys again, or kill them all one night. Because these are my friends and the "game" is really just an excuse to drink and smoke pot, I do the minimum to keep my head from exploding (Nexgens and NO T50 chip under any circumstances).
 
I would say if you have hosting experience and your friend doesn't it may be valuable for everyone's experience if you provided some reminders and helpful hints to make his game go a little smoother. Ben and I tend to go above and beyond if someone new is hosting and offer to extend invitations if seats need to be filled or bring chips, dealer buttons, cards/cut cards etc if needed. You may not need to go that far (read the long version to see you did the first time) but I would at the least extend the offer if it's not much hassle to you. The better the environment, the more likely people will want to become recurring players (and could potentially bring new seats to your game if desired) regardless if they are regulars for you or not. Plus (for me personally) it would be terribly uncomfortable to have some one attend his game that also attends your next upcoming game and say something negative about your friend or their experience at his game (this may happen regardless sometimes)

Overall, I think I would extend an offer to help if he needs it (for say maybe his first 2-3 games) and then let him know you'd like to see him grow his game and get on his own foundation. There's absolutely nothing wrong with just wanting to be a player. Again, helpful reminders like setting up a group text or email chain for recurring games, having a timer system prepared if you're playing tourney, having a drink and snacks system prepared, all make a huge difference in an overall experience.

Best of luck to your friend!
 
I appreciate everyone's input. I did text Jake and asked who was on the list and he said he's going to get that arranged. How much of the game itself I'm running, not sure but at least the entire burden is not on me lol
 
lol this is pretty funny that you assumed you'd be on the hook for that (with some credence I will add) but definitely best idea was just to talk to him which im glad you did, that would be fairly unreasonable of him to expect you to set everything up
 
The only thing you'd have to worry about at this point since it's his game is if he asks you ask to bring over your hotd og roller (if you have one). If that happens, don't show up!

Kidding aside, not your obligation at all. You seem like the kind of guy who would offer assistance if needed, but you shouldn't feel compelled. Hopefully, Jake picked up some great tips/idea from attending your game on your best hosting practices.

Side note: Is your friend really named Jake or were you watching a State Farm commercial when you wrote the post?
 
The only thing you'd have to worry about at this point since it's his game is if he asks you ask to bring over your hotd og roller (if you have one). If that happens, don't show up!

Kidding aside, not your obligation at all. You seem like the kind of guy who would offer assistance if needed, but you shouldn't feel compelled. Hopefully, Jake picked up some great tips/idea from attending your game on your best hosting practices.

Side note: Is your friend really named Jake or were you watching a State Farm commercial when you wrote the post?

Haha no hot dog roller yet but that might be a Christmas gift to myself. Yes his name is Jake.

I'm happy to help and run the game the same way I run it at my place, I think the mental hurdle/block I was getting is that I didn't want to have to organize the list of players for this game too.
 
I don't know how anyone else thinks of this, but before the virus I played the role of "host" at another person's party several times. I was responsible for the chips, the running of the bank, rule enforcement, etc. but NEVER in charge of getting people for the game. My job was to "run the show". Without players, there is no show for me to run.
 
I think the host should be responsible for gathering the players because it's his game, not yours. If you want to help him out with the equipment and the organization, that's great.
 
My friend and neighbor is a lot like your friend Jake. He loves to throw his own poker night, because he wants to be the host. He had zero hosting skills for a game, so the first couple of times I did everything. Then one day, he goes off to the poker chip store in Dallas and call me up. He needs help with a chipset breakdown. So I give him some numbers for a tournament and cash set. Then he asks for a structure, so I print that out and he uses it. We share the same email list, as our poker group is mainly guys from the hood and a couple of local PCFers. He's got guys in the group he won't invite, and there's guys in the group that won't play at his place. So it works.

Tldr - teach Jake how to host, and you'll enjoy poker night a lot more.
 
I don't know how anyone else thinks of this, but before the virus I played the role of "host" at another person's party several times. I was responsible for the chips, the running of the bank, rule enforcement, etc. but NEVER in charge of getting people for the game. My job was to "run the show". Without players, there is no show for me to run.
I think it's also the fact that i know it's hard to get a game together sometimes. People bail, emergencies, etc and I already have to deal with it for my own game. If I was to get the list together for Jake's game and people bailed, then I would feel worse about it then if it was just my own game. I'm ok with running the game, but don't want the responsibility of getting players together for it. I'll be there to run it and keep the game smooth.

You can teach me short deck too.
Mike, we play short deck at midnight every game now and for my Dec potluck game, it's a dedicated short deck night, requested by the core crew of my players.
 
My friend and neighbor is a lot like your friend Jake. He loves to throw his own poker night, because he wants to be the host. He had zero hosting skills for a game, so the first couple of times I did everything. Then one day, he goes off to the poker chip store in Dallas and call me up. He needs help with a chipset breakdown. So I give him some numbers for a tournament and cash set. Then he asks for a structure, so I print that out and he uses it. We share the same email list, as our poker group is mainly guys from the hood and a couple of local PCFers. He's got guys in the group he won't invite, and there's guys in the group that won't play at his place. So it works.

Tldr - teach Jake how to host, and you'll enjoy poker night a lot more.

I appreciate this post. Hopefully I can groom his game into one he can run on his own and have it be a great one as well.
 
My friend and neighbor is a lot like your friend Jake. He loves to throw his own poker night, because he wants to be the host. He had zero hosting skills for a game, so the first couple of times I did everything. Then one day, he goes off to the poker chip store in Dallas and call me up. He needs help with a chipset breakdown. So I give him some numbers for a tournament and cash set. Then he asks for a structure, so I print that out and he uses it. We share the same email list, as our poker group is mainly guys from the hood and a couple of local PCFers. He's got guys in the group he won't invite, and there's guys in the group that won't play at his place. So it works.

Tldr - teach Jake how to host, and you'll enjoy poker night a lot more.

“Give a man host, you’ll enjoy poker for a night. Teach a man to host, you’ll enjoy poker night for a lifetime.” -Wild Western Proverb
 
A few times a year one of my non poker friends gets the “I want to have a poker game bug”. But instead of just coming to my game or asking me to set up a tournament, they want to host a game.

I always hope they just want me to show up, but usually they need me to help with something, most of the time finding enough players. The problem with that is now I have to know all the details and need to make sure it is a decent game/structure if I am going to invite some of my poker friends because obviously they are going to ask me a ton of questions.

But back to the OP’s problem, when I get invited to the game initially I always reply to the text “let me know if you need any help with anything” and I leave it at that until they ask me to get involved.
 
I always hope they just want me to show up, but usually they need me to help with something, most of the time finding enough players.
That is where you tell him that your game has tons of players and you can make sure you have a seat empty for him. I am already doing the work of running the show, I am not also doing the work of making the show as well.
 
It's good you talked to your friend to make sure you're on the same page. At this point, I'd say not only is it not your obligation to host, but in fact it IS your obligation to NOT host. Let him run his poker night himself, and let him do it his way.
 
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I've CPC chips, Design cards, table built by Tony, drink carts, well stocked bar, etc. ... There's been a couple other people at work who've tried to run games to compete as well but those have died out ... I'm proud of what I've built and how I run my game. I deal the entire time while playing, to keep up pace of play to my standards and let the players enjoy themselves.

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First, the easy part, it's definitely not your obligation. Are you sure though that you don't at some level WANT to run it so that it lives up to your standards? I'm sure you don't want all the dirty work and obligation, but from your words it sounds like it may be a bit of a competition to you. Do your friends really try to start games to COMPETE with yours?

I hope this isn't coming off the wrong way mashoo, I'm not trying to criticize or judge, just trying to help. Most of us that host are proud of our games just as you are. I know I get a lot of satisfaction from running a good game (not quite as high end stuff as yours!). If you want to just go and play at your friends game, then just do it. Definitely don't deal at his game, you should be able to not work as much when you're not hosting, and maybe they'll get better at dealing and you won't have to do it at your game (or at least appreciate the fact that you deal)!

And for those of you looking at my username, no I'm not mashoo's friend Jake!:ROFL: :ROFLMAO:. I actually just checked where he lived to make sure!
 
In our monthly game we take turns hosting however it's usually me every other time. We're all on the same invite list so that's never a problem and some will add people outside the list which is always good since we're never a full table anyway. I always bring chips and the iPad (for blind timer) but otherwise the host takes care of everything else (food, drinks, cards, chairs, table, answering the door etc). I will bring a topper if I know we're playing on a dining table. Although I will hand out the chips, the host always holds the cash.

So I guess I'm happy to facilitate the game (chips, blind timer etc) but everything else is up to the host. I also defer to the host for rulings etc since it's not my house.
 

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