Yeah, I’m a native new yorker, and I hate it, so there’s no bias at all. God I would’ve loved an NYC casino though.The PNY designs are nothing short of magnificent and perfect.
The chips are *exactly* how you execute a theme. Keep in mind PNY would've been the first legal casino in New York City *ever*, and the first city casino (legal or illegal) accessible to a non-connected joe in a long time. It can't be understated how different gambling and poker in NYC would be had Giuliani just let 'em open. Sure they're grand inlays, but for a casino that would've revolved around a New York theme, putting landmarks on it was a grand slam. The Pell Street $20 is one of my favorite chips ever made, and obviously hindsight makes the $500 a sentimental favorite.
The fact that I'm a born and bred New Yorker has no influence on any of this, I swear.
The PNY designs are nothing short of magnificent and perfect.
The chips are *exactly* how you execute a theme. Keep in mind PNY would've been the first legal casino in New York City *ever*, and the first city casino (legal or illegal) accessible to a non-connected joe in a long time. It can't be overstated how different gambling and poker in NYC would be had Giuliani just let 'em open. Sure they're grand inlays, but for a casino that would've revolved around a New York theme, putting landmarks on it was a grand slam. The Pell Street $20 is one of my favorite chips ever made, and obviously hindsight makes the $500 a sentimental favorite.
The fact that I'm a born and bred New Yorker has no influence on any of this, I swear.
Not for long, friend. Not to derail this thread, but the Queens racino is owned by Malaysian gaming interests who only got into it with the idea of turning into a full Class III gaming casino. They started building a hotel before COVID hit, allegedly for JFK travelers, but the area doesn't need another 400-room hotel with presidential suites and whatnot. The JFK claim was BS then and it's BS now. They started building it because they expected to go full-fledged casino sooner rather than later, and COVID did nothing but expedite that inevitability. The City and state have been hemorrhaging money, it's bound to happen.Then they said it was was slot machines only
Can somebody give me an explanation as to why grand inlays are substantively worse than regular inlays? Is it simply a design preference? Maybe it's because all of Mohegan Sun's chips have oversized inlays, but I've never once looked at a grand inlay and thought "let me vomit to get this terrible taste out of my mouth," which is what most people on this forum seem to think hahaoversize inlays? check
photo inlays? check
erratic, inconsistent denomination placement? check
RHC mold? check
Four strikes, so yep, it's a 1. Only because 0 isn't a choice.
These chips are a total waste of otherwise perfectly good clay.
For those of us who are mold guys, RHC is already inferior in terms of feel. When you take even more surface area away with an oversized inlay, it negatively impacts feel further.Can somebody give me an explanation as to why grand inlays are substantively worse than regular inlays? Is it simply a design preference? Maybe it's because all of Mohegan Sun's chips have oversized inlays, but I've never once looked at a grand inlay and thought "let me vomit to get this terrible taste out of my mouth," which is what most people on this forum seem to think haha
Beyond the the feel and playability issues, oversize inlays also negatively affect the looks of clay chips by covering and hiding the base and edge spot colors and shapes.For those of us who are mold guys, RHC is already inferior in terms of feel. When you take even more surface area away with an oversized inlay, it negatively impacts feel further.
Totally lost me there. I can understand the oversized inlay might affect feel and aesthetics, I've never paid attention to how they feel vs any other chips. But I've never had any issues playing with oversized inlays. Outside a handful of one-off Bud Jones commemoratives from 15 years ago, every single Mohegan Sun chip has had an oversized inlay and Mohegan is where I made my bones. I've never had problems stacking or shuffling or anything like that.playability issues
Now you're speaking my language. If someone wrapped my A6 in a wrap like that, I'd be in jail for a long long time. 'Nuff said, point incredibly well made!@RudysNYC we are chip lovers. This is what I think of when I see oversized inlays...
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Generally speaking, chips with larger inlays have less clay-to-clay surface contact area than those with smaller inlays, and suffer from reduced chip-to-chip friction because of it -- essentially making them slicker, harder to handle, and less stable in stacks.I am genuinely finding it hard to grasp that the inlay size affects how the chips actually play.
Guess I've just always had too short a stack to noticeGenerally speaking, chips with larger inlays have less clay-to-clay surface contact area than those with smaller inlays, and suffer from reduced chip-to-chip friction because of it -- essentially making them slicker, harder to handle, and less stable in stacks.
Mold type typically doesn't matter, but can make it worse.
This is NSFW I feel like a kid againI still love my set.
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As Uncle Junior would say...Are they magnificent? No. Are they gritty? Yes. Do they have moxie? Gitouttaheah. Do they work as a cohesive set? Abso-futzing-lutely.
They're totally real New York.