Chip Race or Round Up (1 Viewer)

Race or Round

  • Race

    Votes: 34 34.3%
  • Round

    Votes: 65 65.7%

  • Total voters
    99
Just so we're clear about what kind of pole we are talking about.

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Moose, missed the context of your post... But it just doesn't matter... Well played.
 
Poll needs to be modified. Round vs race for a single table VS round vs race for multiple tables!
 
Probably need to break it down by the number of T25s in the starting stack, too. 12 vs 8 will make a big difference.
 
The past few years I've rounded up when coloring up. This year I'm chip racing. The additional time is insignificant for me, less than a minute more compared to rounding up. There's three reasons I made the change: 1- It's more fun. 2- So that some players get used to it since all relevant casino tournaments chip race. 3- To keep the amount of chips in play exactly the same ( not that big of a deal though). My league runs two tables btw and I do not ask the chip leaders to buy the chips to be colored up, I rather do it myself during the break.

Paulo nailed it dead-on. Good casino tournaments race, chintzy ones round up. Which one are you?

But YOU will be the one to waste your ENTIRE break. :rolleyes:

Clock comes with a pause button. Our breaks are officially 12 minutes long, but I pause the clock if we (Mrs Zombie and I) don't have 3 tables raced off in the first 2 minutes. We operate using 2 people because it moves very quickly, and a second set of eyes (plus any onlookers) prevent errors. As she deals the cards, I pile the remaining chips in the center of the table and get an accurate count of leftover chips.

Thanks for the info. I've only seen it a few times, and the only mystical part was the suit rank, which is not normally used in poker. I'll write that down on my TD note sheet.

Suit ranking from lowest to highest:

Clubs
Diamonds
Hearts
Spades

It's alphabetical. Now you don't need to write it down, you have it memorised forever (unless you forget your ABCs)

For multiple-table tournaments, balancing tables by moving players from one table to another can create an unequal number of chips. In those instances, round up the total of the 'odd' chips to the nearest 100. 9 total odd quarters? That totals 225, so chip up to three x T100 chips.

I believe the rule is that you round off the odd chips to see if an extra (hundo, in your example) chip is put into play, but I do not see the explanation in the current TDA rules. However, I feel pretty confident I am correct - If I am wrong, point out the rule and I will make appropriate corrections in my games.


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Rounding up is marginally faster, and senselessly lazy. Racing means each and every chip matters, even if marginally. If T75 in chips don't matter, why play a 25-50 level at all?

If one player buys the chips about to be raced before we get to the table, it makes it very nice for the hosts, but this happens quite rarely.
 
2:1 in favor of rounding. So many sketchy home casinos!
 
Hungry trolls are hungry.
 
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Just so we're clear about what kind of pole we are talking about.

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Unrelated - Though she has sort of embraced it now, that poor girl's pictures started floating around online almost ten years ago when she was still in high school. (And yes, not a minor, but a high school student nonetheless...) Kinda saddens me.

(Not an attack on the poster, Moose. Just an observation from the dad of a young woman, and a 16 year old girl. )
 
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Plus she cant vault forever. #Anna Kournikova
 
We round up for speed. Also, I always have exactly one person do the round up at each table. When two people are doing it somebody can get paid twice. Usually that one person is me for all tables but I haven't done it for more than a four table tourney by myself yet. I start at the small blind and move around to the button just like the deal. If somebody is slow I wait for them to get their small denom chips out front before moving on (usually while other players are taunting them). The winner of the last pot is usually the last one ready to be chipped-up.
 
I host 1 table tournaments, so doing it properly with chip race really is no trouble at all. Also the rest of the gang enjoys watching who ends up with the "free" chips :p

However, I totally understand home game hosts with MTTs which rather prefer rounding up.
 
Race because it's easy, it keeps the chips in play constant (unless table moves have messed up stuff) and people enjoy it.
 
Thanks for the info. I've only seen it a few times, and the only mystical part was the suit rank, which is not normally used in poker. I'll write that down on my TD note sheet.

It's alphabetical, like @Poker Zombie said, so it's easy to remember... it's also the same suit order as other standard games, like Bridge, on there it's usually though of as Spades, Hearts, Diamonds, Clubs, high to low.

Also, the suit ranks are also used in poker for:

1. If drawing cards for first button.
2. To determine the forced bet in stud. (Low card gets the forced bet, and ties use the suit order.)
3. And (rarely), to determine the high hand in stud to lead the betting (if two hands are otherwise tied, and not using the more common "first dealt" rule.)
 
I prefer rounding for quicker color ups during breaks. Everyone seems happy to get the little extra if they are not on exact stacks.
 
Hi,

If player only have one T25 left in his/her stack - does he/she still participate in a Chip-race when removeing T25s? In other words, will the player be dealed one race-card - or since he/she could not be eliminated just get one T100?

And let the other involved players race.
 
Hi,

If player only have one T25 left in his/her stack - does he/she still participate in a Chip-race when removeing T25s? In other words, will the player be dealed one race-card - or since he/she could not be eliminated just get one T100?

And let the other involved players race.

Right, a player can not be eliminated from a tournament via the chip race. So I believe that player would not participate in the race, they would just be given a $100 chip
 
Hi,

If player only have one T25 left in his/her stack - does he/she still participate in a Chip-race when removeing T25s? In other words, will the player be dealed one race-card - or since he/she could not be eliminated just get one T100?

And let the other involved players race.

Right, a player can not be eliminated from a tournament via the chip race. So I believe that player would not participate in the race, they would just be given a $100 chip
Correct, they can't be eliminated, but they still participate in the chip race. If they didn't, it would be guaranteed that the total chip count increases. Since they participate, there's at least a chance that it stays intact.

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